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  1. MitchyD
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    It is kind of a you hit or bust kind of item.
     
    MitchyD, Aug 17, 2024
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    As a side note, 0/6 BWGs tend to be ~100m, not 10-20m. I think because higher visibility and CSS potential after 2-3 30s.

    As for my opinion on shop scamming, I'd say don't bother. If you browse FM a lot you'll notice it's extremely frequent, and it's super easy to just make sketchy FM mules and delete them after a week once it gets known you're scamming, so trying to blacklist every shop scammer will just result in a bloated useless blacklist.
     
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    Guess so.

    anywho, the bwg price was changed to 90m due to sylafia's comment, for me (and for much many) she is the most reliable source of information regarding prices so..

    @Shiratsuyu feel free to share your opinion on the matter.

    This will be my final comment, as it was (as I say anyways, you are free to think otherwise if you see fit) an honest mistake that was fixed within 1 hour of me knowing the price is wrong (If I could i would've changed it instantly but I was sleeping).

    Have a nice Saturday folks.
     
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    Yeah , definitely a fair price.

    The difference between your situation and the other dude is that you corrected the problem in a respectable way.

    You didn't attack the poster , protest the post and cause unnecessary drama.

    As far as I'm concerned you've atoned and don't deserve to be blacklisted over this.
     
    MitchyD, Aug 17, 2024
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    Fair enough. I don't see any reason to add you to the blacklist in that case. Even though the other guy was a bit rude, I hope you can see some similarity here. What if we had responded to you by saying that we did not believe you, etc? (no need to answer that question, just something to think about).

    This. 100%. And in addition, perhaps any mains that end up on the blacklist would be more likely to be newer players who were less familiar with prices.

    Not only will the shop mules of intentional scammers be regularly culled and replaced, but it's also not likely that anybody who is shopping will check the blacklist before making a purchase. It is far easier to just double check the stats of what you are purchasing. So blacklisting is not protecting anybody.

    I don't see how having shop scamming as a blacklistable offence could act as a deterrent for the behavior either. Those who are aware of the blacklist will probably make anonymous shop mules (that are regularly replaced), and those who are not cannot be deterred by something they are unaware even exists.

    And so, given that the issue is so divisive, and there is so little gain in blacklisting shop mules anyway, I wonder if it would be better to just remove shop scams from the blacklist entirely.

    I am still curious if it's against the TOS though - the scamming rule is a bit vague.
     
    Heidi, Aug 17, 2024
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    I don't think putting items on the market for over their street price is the sole point of contention here.

    It's pretty scummy to say you're selling "clean bwg" while putting up a 6slot one, regardless the buyers' responsibility to double check what they're buying. At best it's negligence on the seller's part not to double check what they're selling, especially for the said item that's explicitly being advertised.
     
    StellarBlade, Aug 17, 2024
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    Look at them trying to destroy our culture @Shnang

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    REASON: leech scammer
    DETAILS: sold 1 hour leech, disconnect 7 mins later, refuse to refund or continue leech.
     
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    1. IGN: NewbornSI
    2. REASON: Objectionable Behavior (Disruption) - attempting to kill afk characters
    3. DETAILS: albeit my fault     for afking in an area where its high traffic during these historic time - I get back from afk and I see "hey" in my chatbox but I see the same player luring mobs to my characters attempting to kill them. I wait a few moments to see if he'll give up but naw mans is INVESTED. I messed up by using darksight cause I really wanted to see how far this was going to go.

    as far as evidence, I couldnt upload anything no matter how much I compressed the file so I used a streamable link to upload this video.
     
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    *Miss* *Miss* *Damage* *Miss* *Shifter**Shifter* *Shifter**Miss* *Miss* *Miss* *Shifter*

    2:30 more of this before he gave up and left. lol
     
    Enticing, Aug 24, 2024
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    The only thing I thought about during that clip was how badly shads deserve a nerf.
     
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    You have to see the funny side though. The persistence!

    He would have had no idea you were there and recording ^_^'
     
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    I mean, you only lost 4 Power Elixirs, is that really blacklist worthy?

    My guy was persistent and wouldn't take no as an answer!

    Next time be afk with a character that is not a shadower so we will see smth else other than "miss" lul
     
    Geto, Aug 24, 2024
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    He's already on the blacklist, but adding a second data point, as he tried to steal my stopper map twice.

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    Apoc_Ellipsis, Aug 24, 2024
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    Maybe he was testing Shad avoidabillity :p
    It's crazy how little you got hit though. Would've taken forever, esp with pot autopot on. Buff stance pls
     
    EmersonH, Aug 25, 2024
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    i potted manually no pets were on during event
     
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    I agree that it's still not nice to deliberately lure monsters into an apparently afk character, even if shad OP. Have you tried asking him why he was doing it?
     
    EmersonH, Aug 25, 2024
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