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Noted.

 

I see

BTW GM EVENT NOW LET'S GO

 

iykyk

 

From the beginning, I wanted to handle this matter internally within the guild that Mawi and I were both part of. I would also like to apologize again for making Ohms appear involved without informing them of the situation beforehand.

The guild that Mawi and I were both part of offered compensation at the guild level but I refused it.
At the time, they did not say that the money was from Mawi. Instead, they explained it as the guild finance team compensating for the damage caused by a guild member. I refused it but the money was still sent through Duey.
Since I am already leaving the game, that money no longer has any meaning to me so it will be returned soon through another person. This was already discussed at the time.
Because they did not state from the beginning that the money was from Mawi, the only assumption I can reasonably make is that they sent the money to me first, then told Mawi afterward and Mawi may have said something along the lines of, “I cannot pay melomance but I can cover your loss.” However, this is only my assumption so I will not make a major issue out of it.

Also, before I brought this issue to light, neither my friend nor I had received any direct explanation from Mawi regarding that money. In fact, this was only revealed now through his reply comment.
Do you really believe he would have sent the money if I had done nothing?

For players who have played as long as we have, 6 WS is not a large amount of money. In the past, I had consistently lent him 20-30b and 6 WS is a relatively small amount compared to that.
If I urgently needed that money, it was an amount I could have earned myself fairly quickly.
If he had politely asked me because he needed more time, I would have waited for months, just as I had always done before.
The main point I keep trying to make is not the money but his malicious intent. Since the money was not mine, I asked him multiple times to take responsibility and make sure he repaid it properly.
However, he self-banned the very next day and later shifted that responsibility onto Matthew.
Even after we had waited for months, he told us that he could not pay us back and as shown above, he even admitted that his intention was clear.
I am not doing this because I am trying to get the money back. What I am pointing out is his malicious intent.

In this situation, after going through all of this and after several months had already passed, I honestly do not understand the meaning of simply sending money through a middleman.
A debt should be repaid directly, together with an apology for failing to keep the promise and for acting with malicious intent. As can be seen from his own comment, he also understands that the core issue was never the money in the first place.

In this situation, having only the money casually sent through a middleman may be a slightly funny comparison but it feels similar to a scene in a K-drama where rich people throw an envelope of money and say, “Take this and get lost.”

As I said earlier, I am no longer interested in his apology or the money. Before the guild finance team sent any money, I already earned the money myself and repaid my friend for the amount he failed to pay back and the money sent by the guild finance team will be returned.
I have already said what I wanted to say and I no longer want anything from them.

P.S. Regarding the 110b bid, I heard from a mutual friend that he was bidding on behalf of a friend. Since he still had the ability to earn 1-2b a day, I do not think it changes the core of the issue.
However, I apologize for pointing out something that was not accurate.

This keeps getting longer because I’m not very good at summarizing. Thank you for your understanding.

 

hello @melomance,

Thanks for repeating the scenario again, but we heard you clearly the first time...

As this is your first and hopefully last blacklist post here regarding your departure from MapleRoyals, we want to remind you of a few key rules from the blacklist community that you may have unintentionally violated:

Rule #2, while we understand your intention behind your initial post, we must remind you that the rule specifies that the player you are reporting must have engaged in actions either in-game or on the forum. We can no longer accept screenshots from Discord or other platforms.
Rule #3, the goal is to resolve issues internally. You have reached out to guilds that are mutual friends of both you and Mawi where they tried to compensate as per my understanding to your message, or alternatively, reach out to us as prior to your intention, (although I truly do not know what would be your request since you have refused other guilds' compensation), before taking this route.
Rule #4, from our perspective, the loan was repaid, not in the most respectful manner (which we can all agree on), and we understand your frustration. However, any context you provided afterward seems to fall into the category of "petty bickering, personal drama, and guild drama."
Perhaps the owner of the blacklist community could clarify these points.

Given that you are no longer interested in having any connection with Mawi, and despite possibly violating the blacklist community rule, you've made your point known to the public. I think we should just end things here; otherwise, we would be wasting our time trying to prove a point.

 

okokok, go call police ._.

*we're not even siding mawi just because he is in the same guild.

 

@Mawi this is sociopathic behavior and Rogue should expel you if they have any integrity

(this applies to Ohms too, but i don't have ties to that guild and don't really care about their expectations of conduct)

what gives you the right to police others in this thread? she can say what she wants, and if there's a problem the thread owner can address it

 

ya, just mind your own business on the guild stuff.
we don't teach or judge your guild, certainly hope you can stay out of ours.

You might think you can share anything however you like, believing you're above the rules.
Without those rules, you are just like animals.

reread:
"Perhaps the owner of the blacklist community could clarify these points."

 

- The blacklist rules apply only to the decision to include the case onto the page-1 Blacklist for hopefully better visibility. It gives the thread owner a clear criteria, and nothing above that.
- A more important function of this thread should be to provide a place where people can discuss and share their opinions regardless of whether the case eventually being added to page-1 Blacklist or not.
- In fact, every single incident starts from "personal drama" and ends up being categorized as "personal drama".
- When you have already handled it badly, "not in the most respectful manner", yet still claim you have a "goal to resolve issues internally", while the only thing you're offering is the unrelated blacklist rules, it becomes really hard to understand what you're trying to achieve here.

 

lol, now trying to police my comments too. Ohms plz come get your man

 

but we all stand behind that 1 man so how do we get him

 

Can I just add 1 final thing to end this entire saga. I thought my comment on behalf of OHMS was meant to end the entire episode, followed by an agreement by the thread owner but somehow it got dragged on.

I would like to say again we acknowledged that there was wrong done. I also want to acknowledge what melomance/Yudofu is feeling and she is right to feel as such.

I also believe that while yes there are wrongs done, this is not the correct avenue to air out the remainder of the issue. The remainder of the issue should have been dealt with personally, amongst the respective involved parties. In this case, the 2 of them, close friends of the 2 of them, guild leaders of respective members, etc. Based on the current rules of the community blacklist, can anything be achieved? What is the resolution for discussing the remainder of those topics?

Let's put an end to this saga.

 

ask and you shall receive type shit

 

haiyaaaaaa this girl. look at what u've done. tsk.
sorry for the late reply. was busy living a life and watching canada losing :c

relating back to what i had said in a previous message, this is exactly what I was talking about. u can use ur power of fwenship n connections to try n tarnish my name on ur way out. u can herd as many sheeps as u can try n get them to join on the hate train. im still the same me, and im still sticking to my own values n principles.

i still wont be giving any explanations with regards to the 6ws issue. as far as I know of, I had already paid the 6ws as of early May. after that transaction, I have held up my end of the deal, which was paying u back the loan. im not sure what u've been babbling on about. and with every response u give, it's giving all of us more unnecessary headaches.

noooow, lets get to the personal shits u've been throwing around.

Spoiler: "people like Mawi and a few others, who rarely showed gratitude and treated help as something natural"

imma try to not overshare and include too much irrelevant personal backstories, like the time i lent u
my 12int ywg, only for u to sell it n replaced it with 12int red marker :\
so i'll just bring up 1 point. did u know, the only reason i joined the 2024 forums hween event, was only coz of u. to help u. i never cared about the prize, n i never cared about these types of events/contents. u knew this. i stepped out of my comfort zone only because i wanted to help u out.
it was really all fun n games, until u urself decided to screw up the group. why did u exclude the part in ur rant where u had a private discussion with eiven ONLY, n u requested him to submit the post behind the group's back. i wouldn't be surprised if u had ostracized only me from ur discussions, coz at that point, u already hated me. but for u to go behind the other 2 members' backs, the same people YOU claimed to be ur GOOD FRIENDS, tsk tsk tsk tsk, u smelly smelly girl
why did u do that btw? till this day, i've never heard of any explanations coming from u nor any1 else. was it becoz of ur ego? did u only care about ur ownself n ur own satisfaction? or....???? ¯\(ツ)/¯

Spoiler: the usage of AI, calling u paranoid af n bringing my girlfriend into this

u brought that up, but didn't disclose the reason? yeah, it is true. I called u paranoid af. but why didnt u include the backstory of when my gf created a basic & short 4-line riddle using basic English words, that had no maple-related content, and u accused us of being liars and using AI? all I did was showed my gf the subway station map n the theme we were going for, n she came up with that simple riddle. n the first thing u did, was u used the AI-checker to check on her riddle, n the result showed a high % of AI-usage.
why did u also ohmit the part where u removed "a group of" from the initial "a group of friends" phrase in our final submission just because the AI-checker detected "the group of" as AI-usage.
n u wondered why i called u paranoid af? oh and i didn't call u paranoid af from the get go, it was after multiple arguments n explanations, n yet u somehow still failed to comprehend. idc if u had only insulted me, but dont think im not gonna defend my gf and allow u to make false accusations about her.
who the hell do u think u r? she my gfff >:c

Spoiler: u wanted to rely only on YOUR own original ideas

u split me from the group n worked with a diff group?
did u not realize that, in the groupchat, eiven barely talked (he would only reply to YOUR messages), and matt n S didn't conversed as much as I did in the group. did u know, i had to DM both of them n encouraged them to bring their ideas into the groupchat after having mini brainstorm sessions with them? i understand that all of us joined this group to help YOU out, but please, dont be such megalomaniac.
"it showed that MY own original creativity ..."
golly, how conceited r u my dear. it was a collective effort by the group smh ...

Spoiler: need mental treatment

as for the part where I had said u needed mental treatment. I did not mean that as an insult, n I still don't. I was, and still am genuinely worried for u. I firmly believe that u do need to seek professional help. I dont throw around that word lightly. I sincerely hope ur mental stability will get better. @FriendlyDD if u think im a bitch, I wish u all the best if u ever happen to have the chance of dealing with her true self.

yuzu, u do know that our fwenship was mutual right? dont try to give sob stories about me abusing n taking advantage of OUR fwenship. I highly respected u as a player. i still remember our first interaction in mulung when i bumped into u back in ~oct2022, asking about royals n tips. im still wearing the fwenship ring that we got together. leaving my shad's guild to join ur Pallete (btw wat happened to that guild?) just to make u feel contented. it really is such a shame that u had stooped so low on a personal level.

u can try to extrapolate claims (like my mindset) out of nothing, rile people up against me by providing half-assed context, n paint me as the bad guy. u do u. but at the end of the day, I wanna know why r u doing all of this? as far as im concerned, the debt was paid quite awhile back. why now? if u're gonna say that I cant be trusted, well. have u had any issues about me when i borrowed like 50-70b from u collectively? im not gonna ask u about all of the other loans I got from a couple of other chingus, coz those didn't involve u.

u're already quitting/have already quitted. the debt had been settled. so whats the purpose for all of these? u just cant get enough of me donchuuuu.
to end off this debacle between me n u. I just wanna say, just be good to others, n don't disrespect them when they disagree with u. i know u cant handle any harsh remarks, but do ur best okay? and don't be surprised that ur actions have consequences. if u don't want to get screwed over by others, don't screw others to begin with. just be nice.

i would like to sincerely apologize to Ohms & Rogue for getting roped into this mess.

Spoiler: for the community, especially the Northern peepol

no one joins guilds for the "good values" that will be instilled into us, we join guilds for fun. lets be fking real here. hell, we r just a bunch of adults that wanna have a group of people we can play with. that is all. all of us r adults, we already have our own sets of morals n principles that we live by.

why is it that when there are personal dramas, u people would need to get the guilds involved when they had no association to the dramas? to get a "higher authority" to school n punish the bad guy? u need "adult supervision"? if it's about accountability, that's already been settled privately. why cause a big hoohaa over something private? conforming to codes of conduct? i have been doing that without any issue. u think i started n fabricated all of these for my own pleasure or out of the blue? u silly boi. prior to this drama, has any of u ever had any proper issues with me? as far as i can recall, i never had any issues with anyone else, especially publicly. tone down on the cancel culture ye?

once again, this is a PERSONAL issue between me n people involved. NO ONE else from any guilds were involved in this matter. what each of the involved persons has done, including myself, does not reflect any guild's "values". we acted on our own accords. (is it fair for me to say that Northern taught Yuzu and Eiven to disrespect their own fwens? of course not.)

btw im also in dogs. y was dogs not roped in :c

u dont have to get all high n mighty n shove ur way of dealing with such issues (that are unrelated to u in the first place btw) into the other party's face.
that is all from me. im still gonna enjoy my break. whatever happens after this, imma just go with the flow. good luck to u yuzu, it's been fun c:

8=D

 

This says all. Apparently the disinterested parties have cast their votes and we can see more ‘like’s on one side of the parties than the other one.

Attitudes aside, it's totally understandable that a player don't want to receive money from third party. Even respected players like Cynn, Incostancy, and Nae could get banned for RWT-related issues. It's better to be cautious.

 

Why are we firing shots at Geto now?

 

White knights unite i guess, sucks to lose the 50/50 @Mawi

 

I spoke personally with Raimie, one of the Ohms leaders and we were able to understand each other’s positions.

From the beginning, I never directly informed Ohms about this situation. They were unintentionally pulled into it without knowing the full context so I have no bad feelings toward them at all.
Because of that, I tried my best to respond as politely as possible but if anything I said sounded offensive or hurtful, I am sorry.
I also never intended to drag the guild into this and I asked people to avoid mentioning the guild.



And Mawi, the things you are trying to explain now are all things I already mentioned earlier. I cannot help you if you did not read it properly.

Since there still seem to be many people wondering why I refused the money from the guild finance team and why I am making such a big deal out of this now, as if I am just whining, I want to make this part clear.

I did not like the way they suddenly tried to solve this with money only after the issue had already become this big and after I brought it to light. It felt as if they thought they could silence me with money.
I have emphasized this several times but the money is no longer the issue. If this was something that could be solved with money, it should have been done a long time ago.
Not everything in this world revolves around money.
If they truly had the intention to repay it, he would not have broken his promise to take responsibility by self-banning the very next day. He also would not have broken his promise not to shift the responsibility by telling me to take the money from Matthew instead. And he would not have said things like “I did it for my own satisfaction” and “use friendships to get back at them” to someone who had waited for months.
At this point, before the money, there should have been other words first. And if the money was to be repaid, it should have been done directly and courageously by the person involved, not through a third party.

“The debt issue was resolved, Mawi was cooperative and we confirmed that he admitted his mistake so this is no longer a guild-level issue.”
(not Ohms)

Do you not find this funny even after writing it yourself? Hahaha.
I do not understand what meaning there is in him admitting his mistake to his guild leaders a hundred or a thousand times. My friend and I never heard anything about that directly. If he was going to admit it, he should have done it directly to us.
What I actually heard from him was only a few random forum comments and personal attacks saying that I should see a psychiatrist or get mental treatment lol.
This is like hitting someone with your car and apologizing to the police instead of the person you hit.

Anyway, I stayed silent about all of this for months and tried to be patient, hoping that he might change his mind even a little.
Because of that, I have already reached a state of acceptance. Even while writing this and replying to each comment now, I feel like a zombie, using almost no emotion at all.

But I think it is time to stop now.

If there is still something that needs to be said, I can answer it. But otherwise, I do not plan to log into the forum anymore.
It is the weekend and as Mawi said, it is World Cup season. This should be a time for everyone to enjoy themselves so I am sorry for making everyone waste unnecessary emotions on this.