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Noted.

 

I see

BTW GM EVENT NOW LET'S GO

 

iykyk

 

From the beginning, I wanted to handle this matter internally within the guild that Mawi and I were both part of. I would also like to apologize again for making Ohms appear involved without informing them of the situation beforehand.

The guild that Mawi and I were both part of offered compensation at the guild level but I refused it.
At the time, they did not say that the money was from Mawi. Instead, they explained it as the guild finance team compensating for the damage caused by a guild member. I refused it but the money was still sent through Duey.
Since I am already leaving the game, that money no longer has any meaning to me so it will be returned soon through another person. This was already discussed at the time.
Because they did not state from the beginning that the money was from Mawi, the only assumption I can reasonably make is that they sent the money to me first, then told Mawi afterward and Mawi may have said something along the lines of, “I cannot pay melomance but I can cover your loss.” However, this is only my assumption so I will not make a major issue out of it.

Also, before I brought this issue to light, neither my friend nor I had received any direct explanation from Mawi regarding that money. In fact, this was only revealed now through his reply comment.
Do you really believe he would have sent the money if I had done nothing?

For players who have played as long as we have, 6 WS is not a large amount of money. In the past, I had consistently lent him 20-30b and 6 WS is a relatively small amount compared to that.
If I urgently needed that money, it was an amount I could have earned myself fairly quickly.
If he had politely asked me because he needed more time, I would have waited for months, just as I had always done before.
The main point I keep trying to make is not the money but his malicious intent. Since the money was not mine, I asked him multiple times to take responsibility and make sure he repaid it properly.
However, he self-banned the very next day and later shifted that responsibility onto Matthew.
Even after we had waited for months, he told us that he could not pay us back and as shown above, he even admitted that his intention was clear.
I am not doing this because I am trying to get the money back. What I am pointing out is his malicious intent.

In this situation, after going through all of this and after several months had already passed, I honestly do not understand the meaning of simply sending money through a middleman.
A debt should be repaid directly, together with an apology for failing to keep the promise and for acting with malicious intent. As can be seen from his own comment, he also understands that the core issue was never the money in the first place.

In this situation, having only the money casually sent through a middleman may be a slightly funny comparison but it feels similar to a scene in a K-drama where rich people throw an envelope of money and say, “Take this and get lost.”

As I said earlier, I am no longer interested in his apology or the money. Before the guild finance team sent any money, I already earned the money myself and repaid my friend for the amount he failed to pay back and the money sent by the guild finance team will be returned.
I have already said what I wanted to say and I no longer want anything from them.

P.S. Regarding the 110b bid, I heard from a mutual friend that he was bidding on behalf of a friend. Since he still had the ability to earn 1-2b a day, I do not think it changes the core of the issue.
However, I apologize for pointing out something that was not accurate.

This keeps getting longer because I’m not very good at summarizing. Thank you for your understanding.

 

hello @melomance,

Thanks for repeating the scenario again, but we heard you clearly the first time...

As this is your first and hopefully last blacklist post here regarding your departure from MapleRoyals, we want to remind you of a few key rules from the blacklist community that you may have unintentionally violated:

Rule #2, while we understand your intention behind your initial post, we must remind you that the rule specifies that the player you are reporting must have engaged in actions either in-game or on the forum. We can no longer accept screenshots from Discord or other platforms.
Rule #3, the goal is to resolve issues internally. You have reached out to guilds that are mutual friends of both you and Mawi where they tried to compensate as per my understanding to your message, or alternatively, reach out to us as prior to your intention, (although I truly do not know what would be your request since you have refused other guilds' compensation), before taking this route.
Rule #4, from our perspective, the loan was repaid, not in the most respectful manner (which we can all agree on), and we understand your frustration. However, any context you provided afterward seems to fall into the category of "petty bickering, personal drama, and guild drama."
Perhaps the owner of the blacklist community could clarify these points.

Given that you are no longer interested in having any connection with Mawi, and despite possibly violating the blacklist community rule, you've made your point known to the public. I think we should just end things here; otherwise, we would be wasting our time trying to prove a point.

 

It is true that most of the evidence is from Discord but the actual situation happened in game. If necessary, I can include a screenshot of me handing the money to him. However, at this point, I no longer know what meaning that would have so I will move on from this part.
I find it unfortunate that some people are treating a minor personal conflict, such as the forum event issue and a scam as if they are the same thing.
In reality, many crimes also involve personal conflict. However, just because an incident began from a personal conflict, no one treats it as the same thing once it turns into a crime.
I understand that people may do anything to protect their own. Because of that, I will no longer point this out to you further.
Feel free to talk badly about me as much as you want on Discord. I have already said what I needed to say and I will not respond emotionally any further.

 

okokok, go call police ._.

*we're not even siding mawi just because he is in the same guild.

 

@Mawi this is sociopathic behavior and Rogue should expel you if they have any integrity

(this applies to Ohms too, but i don't have ties to that guild and don't really care about their expectations of conduct)

what gives you the right to police others in this thread? she can say what she wants, and if there's a problem the thread owner can address it

 

ya, just mind your own business on the guild stuff.
we don't teach or judge your guild, certainly hope you can stay out of ours.

You might think you can share anything however you like, believing you're above the rules.
Without those rules, you are just like animals.

reread:
"Perhaps the owner of the blacklist community could clarify these points."

 

- The blacklist rules apply only to the decision to include the case onto the page-1 Blacklist for hopefully better visibility. It gives the thread owner a clear criteria, and nothing above that.
- A more important function of this thread should be to provide a place where people can discuss and share their opinions regardless of whether the case eventually being added to page-1 Blacklist or not.
- In fact, every single incident starts from "personal drama" and ends up being categorized as "personal drama".
- When you have already handled it badly, "not in the most respectful manner", yet still claim you have a "goal to resolve issues internally", while the only thing you're offering is the unrelated blacklist rules, it becomes really hard to understand what you're trying to achieve here.

 

lol, now trying to police my comments too. Ohms plz come get your man

 

but we all stand behind that 1 man so how do we get him

 

Can I just add 1 final thing to end this entire saga. I thought my comment on behalf of OHMS was meant to end the entire episode, followed by an agreement by the thread owner but somehow it got dragged on.

I would like to say again we acknowledged that there was wrong done. I also want to acknowledge what melomance/Yudofu is feeling and she is right to feel as such.

I also believe that while yes there are wrongs done, this is not the correct avenue to air out the remainder of the issue. The remainder of the issue should have been dealt with personally, amongst the respective involved parties. In this case, the 2 of them, close friends of the 2 of them, guild leaders of respective members, etc. Based on the current rules of the community blacklist, can anything be achieved? What is the resolution for discussing the remainder of those topics?

Let's put an end to this saga.