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Not sure what your end goal is here @melomance but since you're twisting alot of facts and omitting key details, let me clarify some things:

This matter had already escalated out of hand, and by the time you came to us it was beyond fixing (in your eyes) as you dropped an ultimatum "If he is allowed to stay, I will have to leave."

Spoiler: 1

"I also never intended to drag the guild into this and I asked people to avoid mentioning the guild."


You're lying, you very much did intend to drag the guild into it the moment you started DMing multiple unrelated guildies about the drama and also lied about us not taking any action & ruling it off as a "personal debt issue, unrelated to the guild"

Spoiler: 2

In reality, we agreed Mawi was wrong and immediately started sorting out the debt matter, Mawi was scolded, admitted to being wrong and paid back the 3b.

"I did not like the way they suddenly tried to solve this with money only after the issue had already become this big and after I brought it to light. It felt as if they thought they could silence me with money."


You play with words alot
You are insinuating that we knew about this issue by saying we "suddenly" tried to solve the issue after it became so "big" and after you "brought it to light". We knew nothing until you told us, then we did our due diligence in making sure we got both sides of the story, and came to our own decision after internally discussing it. We acted as quickly as we could with the different timezones, but we did not sit on this and let it fester.


"At this point, before the money, there should have been other words first. And if the money was to be repaid, it should have been done directly and courageously by the person involved, not through a third party."


The money was only handed over through a third party using Duey because you refused to take your money back, stop shifting the goalpost from "kick him or ill leave, idw to talk, idw my money" to "at least talk to me and pay me directly"

Spoiler: 3

 

@melomance I got your back.

 

What is my end goal?

When I first reported the incident to you, the situation was still at its peak. As I’m sure you can understand, it is extremely difficult to remain in the same guild as someone who scammed you.
A petty argument and a calculated scam carried out after deliberately getting close to me were entirely different matters. At the time, I believed that one of us had to leave the guild, whether it was him or me.

That was not an attempt to threaten or manipulate the guild. It was simply me stating my personal boundary and explaining that I could not remain in the same guild as him.

At this point, everything has already happened and I no longer have any particular end goal.

Regarding Spoiler 1

I had no intention of dragging the guild into this. The issue had already become public and I did not want to start a conflict with the guild. Whenever someone mentioned the guild, I immediately sent them a DM asking them not to do so.
However, once you chose to allow him to remain in the guild, I had no way of preventing people from associating his actions with the guild. People will naturally ask questions but I never encouraged anyone to attack or publicly target the guild.

I only spoke to those people after you informed me that Mawi would be allowed to stay and that no guild-level disciplinary action would be taken against him. I do not want to lie, which is why I have always quoted exactly what you guys told me.


At first, I was simply saying goodbye to people I considered close friends. When they asked why I was leaving, I answered honestly. Nothing I told them was false.
If you believe that speaking to them at all was wrong then I apologize for that.

Regarding Spoiler 2

When I said “they,” I was referring not only to the guild leaders but also to Mawi himself.
I was not implying that the guild leaders knew about the issue before I reported it. I understand that you only became aware of it after I came to you and I am not accusing you of deliberately allowing the issue to continue.

I do not blame you for sending it through Duey. What I am saying is that the fact that it was delivered through Duey and handled by the guild’s finance team meant nothing to me.
If he truly intended to take responsibility, he should have sent it directly to me or to my friend himself. Why? Because things had already gotten to this point.
I had already concluded that there was no chance he would take responsibility on his own.
If he had shown even the slightest willingness to do so, he would have acted before I reported the situation to you or at the very least, he would have given a more reasonable explanation for why the repayment had been delayed.

My criticism was about the nature of the resolution that was presented to me.

Whether Mawi was scolded by you, admitted his wrongdoing to you or apologized to you means nothing to me. From my perspective, the only concrete response presented to me was the repayment of the money by the guild finance team, while I received no direct apology or attempt at accountability from Mawi himself.
I decided not to accept the money because, by that point, the issue was no longer only about the money. The money had already lost its meaning to me. Once the situation had reached that stage, simply returning it without any direct words from the person involved was never going to resolve the actual problem.
You accuse me of shifting the goalposts because I initially said that I did not want the money and did not want to speak to him. At that time, I was angry, overwhelmed and had lost all trust in him. I did not owe him a conversation and I had every right to refuse one.
However, my refusal to engage did not prevent him from sending a direct apology or asking whether I would be willing to speak. He could have taken responsibility himself.
Refusing a conversation did not make an apology unnecessary. Repayment, apology and accountability are separate matters.

My point has always been that the person who wronged me never took direct responsibility toward me.
If you had the courage to send something like this, you should have sent me a constructive DM instead.






For clarification, I cropped the text because it contained both the guild name and the names of the sender.
You may ask why I did not simply edit those details out but honestly, I was already too exhausted to put any more effort into it.
If you keep focusing only on the repayment then we simply have different values. As you said, this conversation will go nowhere and we will only keep going back and forth without any meaningful progress.
What matters is the main point. The additional details were irrelevant and would only distract from the actual issue.
As I said before, I am no longer particularly interested in continuing this matter. The circumstances are clear and the facts will not change.
I have done what I needed to do. You can all move on and enjoy the game.

 

I couldn't help but notice a pattern of cropping things out of context and playing games while reviewing your message, as such, I have deemed you unworthy of my time and will not be responding further.

For example, here is the full context of my discord message (for one of the snips our friend J sent to you )

"To those concerned about this issue, we've been made aware of it a while back. After some discussing, we decided to not get involved in the backstories and drama as alot of it was personal issues between the two parties, we instead focused on solving the debt issue. However, one party refused to reconcile by having the debt covered and gave an ultimatum of either kicking the other party or they would leave.

The debt was paid back in full but the other party still decided to leave the guild, that is of course up to them because after settling the debt and seeing that the other party was cooperative and admitted to their mistake, it is no longer a guild issue."

Anyways, you do you, people can come to their own conclusions, i'm not entertaining this further o/

Edit: Thanks for editing in the full image after I called you out on it!

 

1. No screenshots from the game were provided with the post.
2. Screenshots were taken from discord.
3. It can be seen that multiple people have stepped in to attempt to solve the situation before and after this post. But it is evident that the OP has no intention to resolve.
4. This falls under petty bickering and personal drama. It should no longer fall under the term scam if the WS has already been returned prior to this post. If the post was listed prior to the return of the WS, then calling it a scam would be understandable. Furthermore, as per my understanding, the intention of holding onto the WS was to grief due to personal grievances. I also noticed that from the initial posts, the OP failed to mention that the WS have been returned 1 month ago. Referring to the spoiler#3 in order to report a scammer, there has to be evidence that the other party doesn't intend on rectifying the issue. But since the WS have been returned 1 month ago, the so-called scam incident should be considered as rectified.

I personally feel this has gone on longer than it should, and that it does not belong in the blacklist thread. If you don't like Mawi, then don't. If you don't like Melo, then don't. You can't like everyone, you can't have everyone like you. Think what you want, do what you want, be friends with whom you want. If you want to quit, bye! HAVE A GOOD LIFE.

 

But you started this whole thing by publicly claiming you were scammed.

If what you really wanted was an apology, you could have just said that from the beginning. You’d probably have gotten a lot more sympathy, and maybe even the apology you’re asking for. But hey, where’s the drama in that right?

 

j>dogs

 

Can everyone involved in this drama just



now k thanks.

 

1. IGN : Styler
2. REASON : Refuse to Pay Zakum Helm
Recruited and AFK died during zakum run then ask to pay for our services and APPOS refuse to pay and DC.
3 Detail ( as per screenshot)

 

Buyers pay once they loot the helmet, the seller need to try their best to ensure buyer stay alive to loot them such as having ress when they need it unless the buyer specifically said they don't need any resurrection. If buyer disconnects, they don't need to pay either, only pay once they looted the helmet.

 

Hes not disconnected , he afk during the run and died . dont want to pay for our appos run. then ran off while dc

 

He get nothing , why he need pay ?

 

Sorry, I added the disconnect part partly cuz I assumed you would think you can ask for apple refunds in the future if buyers dc.'

Edit: But yes, buyer didn't get helmet and it seems he was back and can be resurrected. Please ensure you have resurrection on your bishop in the future so you can get paid.

 

Why bother buying the run if afk and died? while we can get other serious buyer.

 

did he get any benefit from ur service?

 

answer my question!

 

He potentially can but he decided to afk and died during our service.
And its funny like how he decided to DC afterwards as if hes wrong.

 

i cant believe what u said