Hi all, am back 5 years later with a follow-up question for corsair HP washing! With the surprise appearance of Pink Bean today a couple of days ago, I figured I'll want to try to wash my corsair to the minimum HP to be able to do it if it's released. @Shiyui's HP calculator looks like the perfect tool for this but I understand it's on lockdown now a couple of questions here: 1. I'm guessing the HP goal for corsair to safely boss Pink Bean with Hyper Body is 11.5k based on @Shiyui's guide? 2. My stats are as such, could I ask if anyone could help me out with calculations and lay out the subsequent steps to achieve the HP goal? Job: Corsair Level: 181 Current HP: 9,339 (9,108 disregarding equips) Current MP: 3,576 (3,366 disregarding equips) Current Base Int: 38 Int Gear Total Int: 153 HP Goal: 11,500 Level for HP Goal: 200 Thank you in advance for all your patience and help! Spoiler: Original 2015 post Basically, I've read the MP washing guide and I'm still clueless as to how it works (sorry ><); there seems to be a distinct lack of mention of sairs in the guide, as compared to warriors and thieves. If someone is kind enough to help me out with the math, here are my stats at the moment (don't laugh I'm super casual haha xD): This is with MW10 lol, and I also have Int equips that can add 96 more Int for me. Got a couple of questions essentially: - Can my sair hit the now necessary 9k HP to HT, by level 200? I really don't have the time to invest into remaking this character again so fingers crossed for an optimistic answer here haha - If yes (celebratessss), is MP washing required? (probably) - If MP washing is required, could someone detail what steps exactly I should take for it and the math behind it? ThankyouI'mdumb. Many many many many many thanks to anyone who's willing to help me out
You can, but you'll need to take out alot of Dex and put it into Int and MP Wash. Pretty unrealistic goals unless you're really rolling in AP Reset money.
Any clue how much Dex to Int we're talking about here? Well I'm not rich but I'd much rather spend more time farming mesos on my bishop than to remake this sair so ><
You'll need about 61 washes to get 9k by level 200 which is 1220 extra MP. Divide that up bu the 26 levels you have remaining and you'll need at least 47 MP per level, 470 Int in total. Take away 147 Int from that via equips and you'll need 243 Int (25 MP per level). Divide that by 5 for each level up AP you get and you'll need at least 50 base Int to MP Wash for every level from this point on.
It's definitely worth the investment, but you will have to deal with not having 50 Dex until level 200.
@Plenty you're immensely helpful, & immensely patient... so I've got a couple more clarifications to make lol sorry man, & thank you! 1. So here's my stats now with MW20: To recap, I also have Int equips that can add 96 additional Int. How would these changes affect the earlier calculations? 2. Using the math earlier, Spoiler would the steps for MP washing be as follows? - At level 174 right now, I use AP resets to shift Dex into Int such that I have 243 Int with equips, BEFORE leveling. - When I level up, first add 1 out of my 5 AP from leveling up into HP (so I can start the process of washing). This added HP stat will eventually be transferred back into Dex when I'm done with MP washing. - I then add 1 of my 4 remaining AP from leveling into MP. - After that, I use 1 AP reset, removing from MP, and adding into Dex. - I repeat this 3 more times with the 3 remaining AP from leveling to 175. - From now on, everytime I level up and gain 5 fresh AP, I just put each of them into MP, and use an AP reset for each of them to shift a point from MP to Dex. - When I'm finally done with amassing extra MP (at level 200), I use as many AP resets as necessary to shift all of these extra MP to HP, reaching 9k HP. - I then use more AP resets to shift my added base Int back into Dex. Is my interpretation of the steps for MP washing correct? Of course, I'll be following your new calculations & figures (taking into account that I have MW20 instead of MW10 now), but I just really want to ensure that I've understood the process right. I really appreciate your help (or anyone's haha), and I apologize for the long-windedness of this; as you can tell, I am terrified of mucking this up & messing up my sair. Thank you once again!
I don't even like math, but apparently I love Maplestory too much to resist doing all these horrible calculations ;_; Job, HP gained, MP lost, Min MP, Min HP Pirate, +16~20HP (+36~40HP for Brawlers), -16MP, (18 x level) +111, (22 x level) +380 From reset: Job, HP gained, MP lost, Min MP, Min HP Pirate, +20HP (+40HP for Brawlers), -16MP, (18 x level) +111, (22 x level) +380 Your corsair's minimum MP at lv174 is (level*18 + 111) which is 3243. So, currently, you have 1101 MP above your minimum that can be washed. Corsairs gain ~20 HP per wash and lose 16 MP, so you can convert that MP into 1376.25 HP (using averages here). The HP deficit is 9000 - 6953 = 2047 HP. By washing the spare MP you already have, you can immediately gain that 1376.25 HP and reduce that deficit to 670.75 HP, meaning that you must gain (670.75/26) = 25.798 or around 26 HP per level. A corsair gains 18 HP per level naturally so that means 8 HP per level through washing. 8 washable MP gained per level (one wash every two levels) will easily cover your bases. What this means is that your equips will easily bring you to the 9000 HP mark by lv200, on average, at least according to my calculations...? I don't know why my math is so different from Plenty's. pls help me Plenty what am i doing wrong
Hey yiks, I was curious haha. Imma corsair in the making aswell. Plannign to do it right and I was curious how much INT you level with on average, from lvl 50? I wanna know what i've got ahead of me, or whats in store for me haha PS: Very helpful thread!
Well, as you can tell, I'm horrendous with Maple math, but I do recall having about 100-140 Int just based on equips (earlier levels I do not have a Zak helm/Krex ring/HTP/etc), and not adding any base Int, so that's the approximate amount of Int I went with to hit the 6.9k HP I have right now. However, this math will probably not be the most useful considering you should be aiming for 9k instead, unless you're okay with relying on HB every HT run haha.
All following calculations are done with the assumption that your Base HP and MP, without equips or buffs, is 6953/4344. You have 1101 Washable MP atm. You will gain 2.5 per level, as well, so by level 200, you will have another 65, reaching 1166 Washable MP. You need another 2047 HP. You will need 1637.6 MP to wash that, meaning you will need another 472 Extra MaxMP. Not too bad. That'd require having 190 INT for your next 26 levels. Now, you claim that you have another 96 INT in equips. Not sure if that means you have 96 INT total from equips, or if you mean you have another 96 INT on top of the 47 INT in your pic. I'll assume that your total INT Equips are 96 (correct me if I'm wrong). If so, that'd be another 260 MP for washing. Meaning, you'll need an additional 212 Washable MP by level 200. I suggest adding 40 Raw INT. That'll net you 88 more MP, right there. (Given that you have a deficit of 16 MP during the INT buildup of 8 levels) Then MP Wash 31 times for that additional 124 MP. That should get you to where you need to be, and you won't need to reset any DEX into INT. Might need to MP Wash an extra time or two, given that everything is based upon averages. TLDR: Add Raw INT for your next 8 levels til you have 40. (Or I guess just add 36 til you hit 40). Then MP Wash for the next 7 levels 31 times, or more if you need to. You can HP Wash at ANY time. So it's best to HP Wash as much as you can every level, so you hit your Minimum MP, and know exactly how many MP Washes you'll need. <3 Gossamer
Thank you @Gossamer this is really useful! Could I trouble you for one last amendment to calculations though, cos yea I did mean I have an additional 96 Int worth of equips on top of the 47 Int in the picture, meaning I can have 4+47+96=147 Int in total upon levelling up (prior to adding base Int)
With 147 INT for each of your next 26 LevelUps, you would need, on average, an Extra 108 MP. Add 30 Raw INT, and MP Wash 13 times. That'll hit your goal, ON AVERAGE! Or add 20 Raw INT, and MP Wash 30 times. But that'd take 7 more AP Resets. Or add 40 Raw INT, and MP Wash 5 times. That'd cost 2 more resets than 30 INT. See how that Optimal INT works? Your optimal INT in this case is 30. OptimalINT=10*SqRt(108/11) = 31.3 You saved about 28 AP Resets by having that extra 40 INT Equips.
Woohoo this is great @Gossamer, thank you so much! One last thing to clarify before I go ahead & commit to this venture haha, are my interpretation of MP washing steps correct? Before leveling to 175 - At level 174 right now, I use AP resets to shift 30 Dex into Int such that I have 4+47(as shown in MW20 picture above)+96(from equips)+30 Int, BEFORE leveling. Kickstarting MP washing process - When I level up, first add 1 out of my 5 AP from leveling up into HP (so I can start the process of washing). This added HP stat will eventually be transferred back into Dex when I'm done with MP washing. - Since adding 1 AP into HP would allow me to start washing, I use as many AP resets as require to wash all my current pool of 1101 washable MP, by shifting these AP from MP to HP until I can no longer do so (i.e. I've hit my minimum MP). Amassing extra MP - I then add 1 of my 4 remaining AP from leveling up into MP. - After that, I use 1 AP reset, removing from MP, and adding into Dex. - I repeat this 3 more times with the 3 remaining AP from leveling to 175. - From now on, everytime I level up and gain 5 fresh AP, I just put each of them into MP, and use an AP reset for each of them to shift a point from MP to Dex. Washing accumulated extra MP to extra HP - When I'm finally done with amassing extra MP, I use as many AP resets as necessary to shift all of these extra MP to HP, reaching 9k HP. - I then use more AP resets to shift my added 30 base Int back into Dex. Are my steps incorrect in any way? Is there a more ideal order in taking these steps? Just give me a heads up if I've interpreted anything wrongly, thanks so much for all your help
It's all good, except that I suggested that you just LevelUp 6 times and add 26 AP into INT. If you were to use 26 AP Resets to get your Raw INT to 30, this level, you would be gaining an extra 9MP, total. That 9MP could be done with 3 MP Washes. The difference in these two methods are as follows: My Method: Uses 23 less AP Resets. Plenty's Method: Gets you to your goal, 6 levels sooner. That one is up to you.
Ah just when I thought this was over >< I'll need abit more clarification on this. So this part is easy and worked out just fine, with me hitting slightly over 8.1k HP. This part was where things got a bit more dodgy, sigh. So I had 4 fresh AP from leveling up (after placing 1 level-up AP into HP to start the washing process). I mistakenly added 1 AP into MP, and used an AP reset to shift from MP to Dex, WITHOUT putting on my Int equips, resulting in a net loss of 1 MP in my mana pool. That's to say, the MP gained from adding fresh level-up AP was lower than the MP removed when I used that one AP reset; isn't the reverse supposed to happen? I then did it while equipping my Int equips, and the net loss of MP increased to 3 instead! No idea what's going on here >< do let me know what's wrong with what I'm doing? I've no clue ): If it helps, I went with adding 30 base Int rather than waiting for 6 levels more. Thank you once again, sorry to trouble all of you!
im pretty sure the amount of MP gained from adding an AP point into MP only considers your base INT and not the equips. and the reason you got 2 less MP the 2nd time around is because when you add a point into MP, it adds base INT/10 + whatever MP a pirate gains from lvling usually. and that whatever MP a pirate gains from lvling is not a fixed number but its a ranged number (for example 18-22) or whatever. so idk what you're freaking out about
