Party Quests Adding Token of Teamwork to Guild PQ

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Moderator note: Merged 2 GPQ token threads together for record keeping purposes.

 

I second that

 

Agreed. But 1 token per run.

 

Agreed. #reviveGPQ #assassinatethatbitch

 

They must have forgotten to add it in the patch note.

 

Sneak some in some bonus room chests too~

 

Second job skills only GPQ hype

 

rie always has the best ideas

 

Teamwork is the pinnacle to Guild PQ, and arguably the most team work orientated party quest in the game. I agree it takes long depending on how experienced your party members are and it is not really rewarding compared to the other PQs which gives adequate amounts of exp for the recommended level range or milestone untradeable but more about bragging rights on the honorable rock.

 

The GQ gives enough rewards such as getting to flex your rank on the rock. You can get a rare book for shadower. You can get Ergoth cards for your collection. you can get a rare chair. The biggest thing is the flex. The only thing I would change about it is the fact that only Jr.s or Masters can host it.

 

I love GPQ as well. need more feedback on this matter. Will adding tokens motivate player to do GPQ? If so, how many tokens per round? How to counter the afk mule issue from GPQ?

 

Have to walk all mules to last stage and/or maybe reduce amount of party members needed to start and continue the quest?

I think the tokens have to be a two fold solution. First, to add more incentives to grind tokens, second to add the tokens to the desired PQs. Since the financial reward sucks and it takes a long time and a lot of effort to complete, a larger number of tokens would make sense. I’m thinking 4-5?

 

as someone who prefers a distinct style over 'one-button' PQ, I assume it would be a great idea.
I, as well, have tried hosting guild PQs, but after junk SB, there was not enough motivation to convince guildies.
I personally don't farm tokens, but knowing many of my friends run PQ just for tokens, I think it would be more so effective

 

Do you mean the requirement to have six guild members present in the PQ at all times? If so, I'd rather the actual requirement of having six players be the topic of conversation than what people do to get around it (muling).

I like that second idea. If the first idea is remotely implemented, I will stop GPQing. I don't mean that in a petty manner.

Having mules adds no benefit in this PQ other than to obey a rule. If you have fewer than four active participants, the PQ will start to take significantly longer (this also assumes you have a player with a mage and thief for the second stage.) So if reducing the requirement is something that can be entertained, the minimum should be at least four, but it would be fine at 5.

Reading these comments, I'm confused. What "issue" does requiring all characters to walk to the end solve? Afk mules are only necessary to keep the PQ going per the (hollow) requirement. The PQ takes long enough, is challenging enough, and there is plenty of walking without having to up the tedium by requiring all characters be present in the last stage.

If afk mules are really an issue (which honestly, I think the 6-person requirement is the real ), solve it through incentivization, not by force. Players are muling in GPQ not because they want to, but because they are forced to (it brings a miniscule benefit, if even). Don't get me wrong, I've had the most fun GPQing when the party consisted of five or more active players.

I think a max of five tokens is perfect, but you can also make the token reward based on time completion (the incentivization.) That is, a minimum of three tokens for completing the PQ, and up to five tokens depending on how quick you enter the bonus. Of course, I'm not a huge fan of making people feel rushed, but it's just one idea.

This is one of many small, incremental changes that can be made to make content more enjoyable. As GPQ is one of my favorite and most fond content in the game, I hope to see this positive change and others.

 

Ah I see. I was so blinded by my "walking rage" at the proposed solution. My apologies for cluttering up the thread.

Rielle, Donn1e and I just had a short conversation after I had tried to propose a solution.

1) Tokens drop from bonus boxes. As bonus is short, this will require players to be active to obtain tokens. Players can communicate what position they want each run to keep things fair.

2) Donn1e brought up the idea of Ergoth dropping tokens, and then Rielle followed up with having them be instanced like LHC (So that one cannot loot, say, 10 tokens on a single character.)

Currently I am a fan of either one. The second one may allow someone to walk mules over and get tokens, but that at least makes them put in the work. The first one has the soft requirement that a player be active on one character (they get an individual's worth of tokens no matter what.)

There is still the question of daily limits, but I'm not a fan of them. I would not mind if GPQ had no daily limit on tokens, since it is heavily team focused and takes an adequately long time to complete if you have fewer than four players (and even then, it takes longer than your typical PQ).

 

i think a daily limit to the token amount 1 character gets as a reward is all you would need to consider. it can be a really time consuming investment, even if less than six people are running it. a daily limit (tbd) would be the simplest countermeasure, like dojo. either an instant reward for leaving the pq, or talking to an npc to receive them.

gpq is fertile for some interesting replay value/reward because it's such an involved pq, i find its reward room a bit too rushed and messy and has bad low-end rewards, and very few interesting higher end rewards. tokens are by themselves an obvious perfect addition to this pq, but i also think lots of unique nx/superficial/seasonal/rotating/event rewards would be great (because anyone can eq them, and theyre just aesthetic)

those and lots of other fun and fitting ideas here:
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/gpq-rewards.174772/