Class/Skill Shadowers and meso bombing - again

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    I know theres been alot of discussion about this matter before. Still I want to open up another one, simply because after half a week of meso bombing, my wrists hurt alot and I feel like nobody actually wants to take the responsibility for the health risks, of forcing users to click so much, so long and so often. It's all just about shadowers balance in the meta. But here's the deal: Put in a delay of 100ms when opening the meso drop window, then a delay of 100ms for pressing the ok button. Allow all third party programs for auto clicking only, save everyones wrists and balance shadowers by allowing only 5 bags per second due to 200ms per meso bag. Everyones happy. I see no reason not to do this, your developer(s) should confirm this is two lines of code, nothing special that couldn't be released in the next weekly patch. You can even alter the delay to balance it in any way you like. Not allowing third party programs is just an excuse, for there has not been any in-house solution ever and will probably ever be. So this suggestion would be a compromise I see no party beeing unhappy with. Also, with the minimum requirements for this game, you can easily run an auto clicker in the background, so there isnt even an unfair advantage to anyone. (Its literally sub 1mb disk and ram usage from the first one you find on google) Please let me know your opinion to this. To me, meso bombing is just not possible anymore since I already fear long term damage I caused to me in these few days as a chief bandit.
     
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    Royals Tip: Too much game playing may be hazardous to your health.

    In complete fairness, nobody made you level this way except you. You can train at hImes or typhons or EPQ. In fairness to the skill, and as the biggest bandit/cb/shad advocate and purist out there, I still think the dropping aspect is overpowered.

    As for third party play, that's not solving the problem, it just enables it, and it's against the rules.

    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/revisiting-the-design-of-meso-explosion.137519/
    poll still favors a change^

    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/new-pickpocket-function-and-meso-explosion-synergy.189290/
     
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    Yes nobody made me play that way, tho I didnt know about the damage it does (I know its dumb, but I NEVER had problems with my wrists, no matter the time I spend on a computer). Also allowing autoclickers for sure is no perfect solution, but the biggest benefit here is that the solution can be INSTANT and it wouldnt change a thing about balance, meta, etc. The poll you showed me is from two years ago. A solution is not better if the results will benefit me in over two years if the problem accurs now.
     
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    The problem with your suggestion is you arent offering a solution, just a mitigation for your specific needs. If you were to change based on your suggestions, who's to say that it wouldn't provide nerve damage to someone else based on your standard? You have the choice or I guess "capability" to utilize this technique, it's not a requirement for success.

    A more productive conversation would be if you talked about suggestions on how the skill should be altered so an auto-click like function isn't required, which I feel overall the community agrees with, just that we haven't reached a conclusion satisfactory to the staff on how to change it. I'm not sure on the logistics, I'd just make it an "explosion" damage passive on the 4th job shadower skills, make pickpocket a buff much like SE and meso explosion the passive ability on top of only the 4th job skills. 3rd job just gets treated as traditionally.
     
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    The original post is old, the discussion and votes aren't.

    Anyway I hope your wrist feels better, take a break for yourself. My advice is to not tense up of you're clicking, sounds like you may be tensing up trying to superman click
     
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    From a Staff perspective, it's not particularly realistic to establish an enforceable distinction between permitted and prohibited third party programs. Given the pain in the ass it is to deal with scripters and botters already, I feel that this solution would just set a dangerous precedent. Especially considering that autoclickers have potential for exploitation beyond Meso Explosion (e.g. it would dramatically change the scope of multiclient farming), I don't really see any merit to your claim that "not allowing third party programs is just an excuse."

    And let's be real, MapleStory is inherently a health risk rotting all of our brains away anyway... ~f18
     
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    Stop making me feel old :admincry:
     
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