Community Blacklist

not a scammer but you're basically the same as this guy https://royals.ms/forum/threads/perfect-clean-kanzir-scam.205365/

 

But it's not technically a scam if you offer someone 50m for something. Scamming is when you spread lies about the actual cost of the item or what ever and manipulate and lie the other player. Or when you don't give them something they paid for. A scam is a dishonest scheme..a fraud.

Example: A bishop sold you leech, you pay him/her 100m, and that bishop logs out and you wont hear about him anymore. That is a true and classic maple scam.

Example 2: You tell the other person that WS price is 50m and everyone is selling / buying them for 50m, then the other player believes in you and decides to sell it to you, then finds out it wasn't 50m. That is a scam.

Example 3: You tell the other person to give you his/hers items, so you can duplicate them, but you eventually run off. That is a scam.

Example 3: You whisper someone and pretend to be a GM, in order to get something out of you. That is a scam and also inpersonalization.


Just because someone offered a " certain amount " is not a scam yet. No i am not you so comparing you to me is not really the case. I barely see players even sell APR or white scrolls in FM, feels like a dead game compared to 2014 last time i played royals lol.


I am sorry to anyone who got offended, but ya all need to relax.. this is a mushroom game. You never lost your WS to me when i offered you 50m so why are you trying to demote and make my reputation worser over nothing?


Also it's called merching not scamming in this case.

 

I find that funny lol. But it's not a scam as you said. Players have been merching stuff that can be 10x the amount since 2003 lol. I remember ilbis being 10m back in the days before BB patch ( sometimes 20m ), i saw players sell them 30-50m at times. Sometimes as a joke, sometimes a rich af player buys anything they find if they are in a hurry.

Merching usually works that way. You buy low, you sell higher. No scam in that. If your moral or values are hurt, it's not my problem. These players have probably never been to flea markets irl lol

 

1.IGN: Janiv
2.REASON: being toxic and kill stealing.
3.DETAILS: I was doing a quest to kill Mano and get his rainbow shell. It took me 3 kills before i get that shell. Of course i found the last Mano in channel 20, until a player called " Janiv " came and killed it. I was the map owner, and i was hunting snails in the middle. I told him to CC when Mano appeared, and i told him i need it for my quest. He went full toxic. Also Janiv killed all the other Mano's in other channels, leaving me no justice, even as a map owner. I saw him first at channel 10-11 at first but i had to speed run myself to channel 15-16 but he eventually caught me at channel 20. He told me i am stealing him but i have no speed compared to a high level THIEF LMAO + i'm a low level archer xD

 

I'd say this should cement their place in the blacklist, blatantly saying they'll continue ripping off noobs

 

who said im ripping off anyone? Ripping off means scamming basically. I never scammed anyone so far 8)

Why would i be sorry for offering someone 50m for something i didnt know the original price? And even if i knew the price.. why would i be sorry? Its not a big deal.

 

Apricot has now been added to the list. I gave you the benefit of the doubt first but your mockery and immaturity made it clear you knew what you were doing.
I may be wrong here, but from your killstealing report, it's very much possible that you were bothering janiv before hand, since in the screenshot you can clearly see mano getting killed twice and you communicating with him before finding your own channel. And it happened in the middle of the other drama. Janiv's comments may be toxic, but I'm not sure if I believe that screenshot to be the whole story anymore.

 

Woah you dont believe screenshots either? How did i bother him as a low level archer? I was calmly doing my quest. Well your blacklist thread means nothing to me, since 80% dont even use forums. And why am i blacklisted? For being immature? What about Tentomon? Isn't that immature that she is reacting to a market trading like this? Nobody in my maplestory experience has whined when i offered them a lowball offer. Well have fun, means nothing to me


Imagine getting blacklisted for lowballing, this server has gone way down the crappy hole lol. RIP free trading system.

 

Edit to make it more PC:

You are calling people a crappy hole here and you expect anyone to be friendly towards you, while you are justifying obvious wrong behaviour, that is damaging this community and that you are performing knowingly.

 

Well you're free to offer whatever price you want, and people are also free to blacklist you. The point being made is that lowballing someone who might be unaware of the price ruins the experience of the game for them. It might be "free market" as you like to call it but can't get mad when the community comes after you. Personally, I wouldn't want to be friends with you but good luck to you.

 

No wonder everyone says this community is toxic af. Cant even make my own offers anymore. Shiratsuyu good job on making the most toxic thread ever, giving players no chance to even play anymore.

 

we dont want players that behave like you do probably best that u quit while ur at it

 

nah idc

 

Almost zof-esque but more edgy

 

In my opinion, if somebody lowballs severely one or two times they shouldn't be blacklisted. But, if they have a history of doing it or being obnoxious then sure why not.

A few points here:

1. Just look at FM in Channel 1, there are almost always people that use chalkboards to lowball WS/CS/APR for profit. Yes, the degree of lowball there is lower than ApricotHeart's lowball from the gacha. But, it's a tactic some people use in MMOs.
2. Since ApricotHeart is a new player he probably doesn't know what the culture is like in the server and what's considered culturally acceptable. Trying to blacklist him for a one off thing like this just seems petty and like trying to start something.
3. Also, Shiratsuyu saying based off his behavior she decided to blacklist him because he is immature is a joke, as are many of the comments here.

I think lowballing by itself should never be considered scamming, except in rare circumstances like blatantly lying or misleading people about the value. In real life if somebody offers to buy your car for $1,000 even though it's worth much more, that not illegal in most developed countries. There's no law against stuff like that. It's an individual's responsibility to do the research on the price of items, and if they get lowballed, they just played themselves.

I think the blacklist is mostly a joke anyway except as like a notice board for more serious infractions like loot swiping in bosses or leech scamming.

 

And the truth is: Yes i have been immature af and i actually did join about a week ago. My main is level 50 at the moment i/l mage, but i play my archer at the moment. I have never scammed anyone, but i have lowballed yes but that has not bothered anyone in game so far who i have been trading so far.

I do have fun in game though, i just dont like this forum at all. But now i cant really have fun because most players here try to give me no chances to join parties or make friends etc, just because some noob sold me old raggedy cape for 100k ? Thank you for making a good point here, obviously these people dont like me no matter what i say.


I have lowballed yes, i have mistyped yes, i have made offers just like anyone else does, except my offer was lower than most. Actually some guy wanted to buy my gloves for 10k which is worth 30m, i just laughed at it and said no. But here players blacklist you and hate you like its so funny.

 

Here's the TLDR for people who don't want to read:

 

Seems that you are not new person to royals but just new account, despite you emphasize again and again your behavior shows you understand this server well.
I never take this list seriously to be honest, but you were my guildie and you did annoy me, I will list you here for you are noisy and farm some likes to benefit my forum account LOL.
(Don't take it seriously these behaviors are completely now worth to add him.)