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    Correction: never stole any apples i actually left with 2 apples because THEY were the ones stealing. they werent doing the platforms right. simple as that. no one wants to get robbed of their apples who wouldnt quit? also i have witness, Sivi is IGN if u wanna take it up to ther
     
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    There are routes to follow and guides whom everybody in this server goes by them. If anyone will take any box he wants and we wont follow any instructions or specific structure, we will be in a massive issue in every simple stuff we do in game.

    Myself and the other members tried to explain Winky about the fact that she stole an apple and he decided to act aggressively instead of speaking politely as he should, and as every single player in this server should act.

    I'm sure Winky will appreciate your comment and effort you've put here as a member within his alliance, but regardless - rules were clearly broken here, and the signature for it was leaving the party after 2 runs and ruining the gaming enviroment for every single party member, which I will never appreciate in any game nor accept it.

    Thank you for your response, I will be waiting for a GM to comment here and clarify the things for us. I won't comment here again to avoid any spam/unreasonable comments vice versa.
    Thanks again!
     
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    I don't think you can say 'everybody".
    Was In over 50 APQ's - none of the party members went by a route, nor required myself or others to go in a route.

    Still no proof for stealing an apple.
    I can also say you stole 500m from me, but provide no proof - where do you think this will go? straight to "Closed due insufficient evidence" territory.

    I won't send another comment either. just wanted to stand up for a fellow alliance member as he was falsely accused, that's all.

    I'm sure a GM (or dave) would send his POV of the matter soon enough.
     
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    If i may chime in, Ive known WinkyHS for a long time now, alliance and in general PQ'ing.
    Swell guy, I'm sure there was some kind of misunderstanding. I've run multiple APQ's with him and have never encountered issues. I'm sure there's a better way of approaching this situation rather than taking it straight to community blacklist.
    I think if there was already tension with the party and people upset at each other it was probably uncomfortable to keep moving forward.
    Not saying leaving the party was the right choice here but, with everything I'm reading tensions were high.

    Community blacklist doesn't seem to be the answer for me. Maybe guild blacklist / friend blacklist.


    I'm sure there was a misunderstanding.
    But again we'll leave it to the GM's

    Edits: spell check
     
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    Igns: enokiiz / eryngiiz / other mules

    Reason: mass defame on multiple mules at FM without reason

    These are likely not their main accs but wanted to give a heads up
     
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    If mass defame, you can ss, collect evidence, then report
     
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    Do you have any screenshots of this?
     
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    Unfortunately due to disconnect issues I wasn't able to screenshot this time around.
    But as this has been a recurring event, I'll make sure to next time.
     
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    Hello, the GMs usually don't comment on the blacklist matters from a Staff's stance unless the situation is severe enough to warrant a Staff's attention such as a flame war or impersonation of another player (in-game or forums)
    *unable to guarantee a GM would comment on this matter

    Personally, I am unable to comment on the APQ matters as such an arrangement would be an agreement between players (not an official ruling) so I think it's more suitable for the community + blacklist owner to discuss such scenarios
    *this would also apply to other similar matters such as boss drop/loot - depends on the players arrangement/agreement
     
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    So who will give us a verdict about this behavior that happened in APQ?
     
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    As mentioned, the community + blacklist owner

    I am only able to give a clear verdict if it's something that violates the game's T&C, such as excessive insults used in APQ
     
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    Any sort of unofficial rules from a guild, party or forum must be explained beforehand. A classic example of this would be the two Zakum runs rule. Unless you make it clear you are going for two runs, there's not much to be done if a player leave after one run. Same here, if you as a party or party leader explained before the APQ how you will do things and the player you report broke this agreement intentionally, then sure.

    I don't think he insulted anyone personally based on the provided screenshots. He swore, but that's not a huge deal, especially since tension was clearly high. I don't think he quit just to mess with you guys either, I think he was just not in a good mood at the time. I see no evidence of him stealing apples, either.

    The guide you mentioned appears to be from 2020, updated once in 2021. Did you tell him before the APQ to look at this guide? I have never seen that guide before myself or joined a party that played by that guide.
     
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    A majority of my bad personal experiences stem from whether the party is following routes unannounced or not. Most of the runs I've done are unrouted with randoms, and it's unanimously understood that no one should be hitting the same box as another player or everyone ends up in a bad mood. Someone should come up with good shorthand for declaring a run that uses reward routing when advertising for APQ, since a player midgame won't want to waste other people's time by looking up a guide for the routes in the middle of a run once it's brought to their attention if they're unfamiliar with the routes. They'll likely just try their hardest to avoid other players while hitting boxes, and will still lead to issues like this.

    Feels like half the posts on here deal with APQ, so it's never a good idea for a party lead to assume what reward rules are in use.
     
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    1. ACME1
    2. Botting FM spot for resale
    3. Resetting my shop at FM1-3 at completely random time, character hidden under shop, spot stolen instantly, shop title - , instantly opened with common shirt at 75m
    price. Suspected spot botting. Please be careful.
     

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    1. LegendaryNL1
    2. Dying in APQ stage 5, then never came back.
    3. AFK in stage 4, died in stage 5 "omg, Im death." (Note: To proceed with APQ we must kick him in order to move on to boss.) Me: "Wait outside and restart ur client." After this he never came back.
    (Claims lag but didn't appear to be having problems to the party.)

    Note: we allowed at least 10-15 minutes for them to return.
     

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    He did say he lagged before you went to stage 5. Is it possible he didn't get back because he genuinely couldn't?
     
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    It is possible, however that is for him to dispute. I am simply posting what information I have because even still today, he has not reached out.
     
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    That person does it in 1-1 too but botting or not they always fail to snipe my spots all while hiding behind my shops 12hrs+ at a time, sometimes under the IGN of ACME3 but do be on a lookout for yourself.

    If they are actually just hardcore sniping spots while all playing legitimately then all I can say is do your due diligence of spotting any potential spot campers via minimap for any red dots behind your shop, and always copy and paste your shop title for the fastest set up time if you're keen on having a set title name as well as keeping your current shop spot.

    This is just my short experiences of having shops all through out 1-1 and 1-2 the past 2 months.
     
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    ma'am, let me serve you this tea nice and hot

    not sure why i got reported and banned for defaming different people sporadically when i was the one who got defamed first for no reason as shown in my screenshots that she posted. they saw me with souna once and defamed me for it so i don't see how me doing the same thing back is any different. i was guilty by association even when i didn't do anything and not one staff member had the guts to call them out on their buffoonery even after i posted that thread. call it being petty but it was a taste of their own medicine. i obviously took an L almost as fat as their audacity on this server since i'm banned now and they still aren't. they could've stayed out of my sight just like how they expect souna to stay out of theirs unless he wants to be served another senseless ban for harassment by them, which everyone knows by now is easier for him to get than this server can get a 10 cent donation

    guess it's only considered harassment when someone cries about it, especially when it's to clowns who were never neutral to begin with. i mean, look at all those likes on her post

    i regret nothing so feel free to put me on here. it would be an honour, truly. i did what felt right and i know that you know it too
     
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    If you were mass-defamed by her or her friends, please submit a formal report with relevant details (including screenshots) so that GMs can review the situation

    If you did not submit a report, you can't expect Staff to take actions

    Judging by the rest of the comments, it seems like you intend to double down on the petty drama despite being given an explanation and warning by Staff several times - I can only wish you all the best
     

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