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To be fair if he doesn't wanna address that then let him be, you don't have any authority to force him to speak up on that.

I don't think so, no one has been harrassed here. If you're speaking as a GM, be professional & fair, don't throw wild accusation like that. you're not helping.

 

I'm not reporting her alleged staff abuse or anything like that.

I mentioned that while treating her like a regular player, as she wanted to be addressed.

Her own demons doesn't relate to "stuff" against you guys that should be reported.

As mentioned, I will not address anything that becky said or mentioned in her submission, so please do not ask me about it.

Also - this is not even close to harassment. whatever I said was told in my own guild private discord server, within my own guild private chats.

With all due respect, do not assume anything that relates to any of my comments, as you're twisting it for no reason.

Thank you

 

I've witnessed and experienced staff power abuse before, and I sincerely hope that Geto can share with us why what Foxy referred to as rumor are facts as in your response to Foxy (in the SS of the anonymous Blacklist report).

At this point based on the posts of many users, I am 95% sure what the rumor/fact you (Geto and Foxy) refer to is about @Cynn 's accusation against Foxy.

Here are the questions:
1. Is (are) the anonymous user (and/or Geto) still reporting Foxy for the reason in the anonymous report?
2. Does Geto have evidence to back his statement about that being facts?
3. Is the rumor/fact about Cynn's accusation against Foxy?
4. If 3 is yes, is Cynn's accusation true (that one of the staff leaked Cynn's perma-ban)? (Cynn knew he's banned for 14 days, but not perma. Could the staff check if he tried to log in during the 14 days? If he didn't, then there was a staff leaking the message.)

 

I will just say that I didn't talk about Cynn's ban, as I was surprised just like many people that he was banned.

Also - I'm not the anonymous user who reported in here.

I won't say more than that.

 

So indeed you don't have anything to back your statement?

 

Is someone able to chime in if talking in a private discord = blacklistable offence? Cause as far i as i can see, it has 0 impact in-game other than possible words that is not directly Infront/in the presence of said individual. @Shiratsuyu or Admins able to determine if its actually an offense? Kinda funny we putting non-maple comments inside. Like would be funny if everyone just starts putting their discourse over discord/social-media/reddit (iykyk) platforms in this

 

forgive my response but as you are part of the conversation, it might be unwise to comment on it as it directly relates to you. The reason i mentioned admins is because dave is on leave so they are the next best person to give their advice as a party not apart of the conversation

 

Unless I missed something, the only evidence I can see is Geto saying LMAO to a somewhat crude and misogynistic joke, which is... eh? I would look into the person that wrote the joke instead.
The rest appears to be mostly finger pointing back and forth. A lot of things got deleted while I wasn't here it seems, so I don't know if I missed something else, but there's not much concrete evidence to go on right now I think.

My opinion is, if we want to include discord and other platforms outside of game/forum, then we should, but only if it's used to encourage others to harass other users or break the game rules. Not saying that did or didn't happen here, just sharing my thoughts on reporting outside communications. A lot of us would probably be seen in a different light if our discord chats got exposed. I would probably be seen as a weird deviant

 

Kay, I'll bite since Foxy's report links to my own post and I was also mentioned by Geto in the attached screenie.
This is gonna be a pretty boring and neutral take aka "I'm not trying to make enemies or pick sides", but I'd like to go ahead and give my side of the story or whatever.

On Geto:
He was usually quite nice to me, but I also couldn't quite figure his character out. I did assume him to be a trustworthy player and perhaps believed him too easily?

When Briefing was banned, he mentioned something about Foxy talking about the ban in Discord and I didn't question it.
Instead, I responded with negativity, stating that staff shouldn't discuss player bans with normal players. (which I think most people would agree with)
This and concerns about Brief's ban are why I made the post Foxy linked.

Geto was actually very defensive of Foxy and it's one part of why he eventually left my guild. Because of that experience, I really don't think he was trying to be malicious towards her.
What Foxy said about Geto screenshotting things I also believe due to some leaks but I don't care enough to look into it.

I also agree with Bunny's comment on Geto laughing at the casual sexism in the server, but that's unrelated to this matter so I won't put anymore focus on it.
Whether you like Geto or not, I'm not sure if he deserved to be confronted in a public area by a GM before being tossed out of his guilds.

With that said, I've done the same shit before so can understand she was probably very frustrated with him.
The wall between player and GM is tricky.

On Foxy:
I previously questioned Foxy's integrity, as you can see in the post she linked. And most of this was caused by people talking.
But "talking" and actual evidence are two completely different things.

It was both wrong and naive of me to blindly trust something a player told me and immediately assume Foxy wasn't a right fit for the role because of it.
I also didn't know the full story on Briefing at the time either.

Some people know that I used to be a GM on a different server. What they don't know is that I quit the role because of negative rumors, just like all of this. It was way too stressful.
I'm not sure why I didn't think back to my experience when forming my opinions on Foxy, because I know how awful and stressful it can be.
And that's exactly why the requirement for evidence is there.

For what it's worth, I have apologized to Foxy in private about this matter and should be judging her character for myself - not from what others say or claim.

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Unless either Foxy and Geto have some proper and clear evidence to backup their stories, then I think we're at a stalemate.

 

WTF are u talking about? I was always nice to you and while you were asking to join Ours in alliance chat a few days ago and sending me hearts you were simultaneously talking shit about me on Ohms discord. You are not the person to talk about fake people.

 

Are you referring to talking about your LHC thing "shit talking"?

I was never fake. All of the things I said are based on actions and that alone.

I can still be your friend and like you (well not now, but before) and dislike your action of the 2 lane LHC thing and share my opinion about it.

Just like I was never fake to either Becky or Heidi, I told exactly what I think and if they ever asked about it, I'd say the same thing.

I never disliked either, on the contrary, Becky was very important to me and I appreciated her a lot. We had many heart to heart conversations and I've considered her a close and trustworthy friend of mine.

Does that mean I can't ever have an opinion on her actions as either a Guild Master or a Game Master?

I find it so tiring talking about private chats that were supposed to stay private.

You (not you specifically) guys are no saints and I guarantee some of you talked about people with other people in private, is it a big deal because it was said? Or is it a big deal because the person that got the private messages made it one?

I think that every side has said their take on it.

In my opinion, it should be just like in court - providing evidence that was received with no authorization to view them in the first place are inadmissible.
This is the equivalent of going to X company and getting Y employee to give sensitive information, then use it in a case or planting a spy to collect information in a big high-tech company or anything like that.

You want to hate me? Sure, it's ok. I'll take it.
But blacklist me over this? Doubt that.

I also did not encourage anybody to say X or Y, I shared my opinions about different things and I stand by them. I won't say my opinions are wrong because it got out to the public.

That'll be my final take and final answer on this submission and follow-ups, and if you have additional info / slander / whatever you guys have in mind, I won't answer.

I'm looking forward to moving on, not staying in place or walking backwards.

Every person is entitled to their opinion so.. you do you.

As a final statement - it was mentioned here that I laughed at a misogynistic joke because it was a misogynistic joke, so first of all I apologize if it looks like that.
I've mentioned a couple of messages above the reason why i said "LMAO". it has nothing to do with the fact that becky is a female. take it with a grain of salt if you still tend to believe to what bunnymon said.

 

Cmon now can we all hug and laugh this away

 

Yes you were. You never talked to me about it f2f. You just talked behind my back.
But whatever. Sometimes it feels like Royals is filled with children in the body of adults

 

Can we get a confirmation from admins maybe @Bacon or some other gm on whether or not private discord chats are considered harrassment when the person discussed is not involved? Its a little concerning when a GM is boldly stating it is harrassment when i think most people would not consider private gossiping or even spreading false rumours (unless at an extremely large scale) as harrassment

EDIT: additionally, i would at least like to raise the concern that the number of restrictive perscriptions (such as above) being defined/instated impromptu have been increasing as of late mostly from gm interns which i feel should not happen unless it is agreed upon by the staff team. As GMs, obviously the players should take their word seriously but if theyre just firing from the hip and theres no cohesiveness with higher up GMs, it blurs the line between actual rules and personal opinions from some GMs

 

Ill take 10 pages of leeching scams or shop bundle scams over 1 post of this current issue. I'm either at worst neutral towards or like all the people involved so it depresses me to be reading all the anger.