[retired] New New Community Blacklist

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    Hello friends! Welcome to the New New New nEw Community Blacklist! I have made some updates and changes to the blacklist. Few things to note in particular:

    1. I have clarified the rule regarding providing sufficient evidence for a first-time offender.

    Please remember that this rule always has been and always will be enforced. But I want to make clear for everyone what exactly would be considered sufficient evidence. For example, with scamming, @Tim has clarified three requirements to successfully report a player for scamming in order to get them banned for objectionable behavior:
    To successfully report a player onto the blacklist, I am simply asking for any one of these three requirements. The best type of screenshot players typically provide contains a disconnected character (belonging to the leech provider) in the middle of their leech session. Other players have also provided screenshots containing a trade window with a verbal agreement to exchange mesos for leech services. And I understand that this type of foresight can be a heavy burden--especially for new players. So this is where the third requirement option comes in. Screenshots containing messages to your leech provider regarding their failure with no adequate response would be acceptable evidence. Even screenshots containing messages to your leech provider multiple times over an extended time period but they have yet to ever log on may be considered sufficient evidence in some cases.

    At the end of the day, there needs to be some sort of reliability and accountability that the blacklist contains the names of people who actually deserve to be on there. To be perfectly honest, people don't really take the blacklist that seriously as is, and for it to devolve into a compilation of "he said she said" will certainly not help. And with that, I have also removed the rule that "first-time offenders may appeal for removal from the blacklist if their accuser did not provide sufficient evidence." It's a redundant rule, because if there is insufficient evidence then a player shouldn't be on the blacklist in the first place.​

    2. I have personally never enforced this, but I have officially removed the reminder that any behavior that breaks the TOS should be submitted in Abuse Reports rather than here.

    If you're an old bitch like me, you may remember the days when the Report Abuse section was public. This was mainly to provide transparency as well as general understanding for players over how the process of reporting another player functioned. But it also led to a lot of petty drama throughout the community and as such, many of us advocated for the section to become private so that players may report rule-breaking behavior without fear of judgment or retaliation. Unfortunately, one additional consequence was that a lot of toxic behavior simply went unnoticed (ex. you act like a bitch, you eat a temp ban, and no one realizes what happened). And I always found it somewhat ironic that a player can be branded through the blacklist for marginally scummy behavior but can essentially face no public backlash for truly being an asshole. This isn't to say that you shouldn't submit harassment or scamming reports--you certainly should. But I also want to open up this blacklist as an additional opportunity to negatively reinforce poor behavior.​

    3. Moving onto a new issue, I wanted to gather people's thoughts on whether poor performance at party quests (specifically APQ and CWKPQ) should be added onto the blacklist.

    It's kind of like how you can't report someone on League of Legends for being bad at the game. But honestly speaking, MapleStory isn't exactly a game with high skill expression. And as someone who has never participated in these PQs, I don't exactly know how they function and therefore can't appropriately judge the type of behaviors that should be considered objectionable (ex. what does "stealing" an apple in APQ even mean?). But I have seen a lot of reports over the past few months on this thread regarding people leaving, disconnecting, or otherwise performing poorly on these two PQs. So please let me know what you think, and as per great tradition, I will later be releasing a poll!​

    I will be adding people for AFKing in BPQ though. I think that's fairly clear.​

    Thanks y'all, let the drama begin! >:D
     
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