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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Buccaneer, Jul 17, 2017.

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    Also want to note a main point of inefficiency behind ws cs discrepancies is that sellers are afraid of ws and cs volatility. They accept rates in which they think the scrolls will be in a few months. People who arent saving and are using them in this current market accept them higher because they areny subject to discounting the future.

    Healthy market needs reliable currency.
     
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    We need credit card system with interest and debt collectors to sink mesos =3
     
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    yea at shrine :(
     
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    Kinda neat how the same issues we have with WS/CS can be found in a similar thread long before most of us were here.

    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/the-economy-sucks.865/#post-3567

    Prices on WS/CS we'd consider "a steal" people are complaining about. In all honesty once people are accustomed to start buying onwards at 380m/475m+ theres no going back to the 300/310m "old source days" even with an Owl.
     
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    It is way past 380 / 475 Dre. The current norm is ~470 / 575.
     
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    I also suggested having Chaos Scrolls temporally available from an NPC a couple of weeks ago, it could be a really nice meso sink.
    However... I don't think that having White Scrolls available from an NPC would impact the economy much. Chaos Scrolls have a high chance to screw you over by reducing the value of an item AND sinking mesos while White Scrolls don't have that negative effect. In fact, using White Scrolls on average just transfer your mesos into assets value.
    Also, having AP Resets available from an NPC would increase the meso outflow, but then we'd have more NX inflow.

    But yeeaaah... the economy definitely has needed a good sink for a long time, most of the suggestions have been rejected due to nostalgic reasons.
     
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    looool jesus :confused: this is what happens when you dont login for a few days.
     
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    Now we know why cs and ws prices raised so much, which is due to inflation and not demand and supply ratio. (#calledit)
    I wonder if banning accounts with enormous amount of mesos should be enough or what we need is a new way for meso sink
     
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    The last time we had inflation due to an exploit, once the exploiters were taken care of prices started to stabilize back to normal on their own. I'm hopeful (as a player speaking) that things will return back to normal again just as it did the last time
     
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    What if Gach tickets were purchaseable via large sums of mesos? It would readily take mesos out of the game (meso sink) while injecting more supply into the game. And to prevent abuse, have something like a daily/weekly limit you can purchase.
     
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    This would only work if:
    • The cost to buy X number of tickets is greater than the cost of WS/CS
    • That X is the number of tickets that one would need to get a WS/CS with good %age of reliability.
    What this does is prevents people from buying tickets, gaching, selling the scroll, getting the tickets again, etc. You should not be able to reasonably expect to be able to get a WS/CS within enough tickets to make a steady profit. It's a gamble. However, it gets really tricky with other scrolls like all the ones from Shrine that can add up..

    What exactly was the exploit? I can't find a thread about it, and I'm assuming that was related to the SC last night?
     
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    it is mentioned in: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/important-information-for-all-players.97177/
     
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    Chaos scrolls have inflated 45%
    White scrolls have inflated 25%

    These are some pretty disgusting numbers and dangerous ones too.

    This explains why the price for gear is going bonkers as well. Mesos in amounts unimaginable dumping into the server.
     
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    Which makes me really sad cause I'm sitting here with less than 50m, just blowing up Bigfoot.
     
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    I agree with everything except for a minor piece that is cosmetics. Clothing I agree should not be purchasable via mesos. Cosmetic changes such as face, eye, and hair I feel should be re implemented as a meso purchase. The amount of people who enjoy changing their character looks is pretty high. I feel as though this is one of the best meso sinks there was (behind smegas / tp rocks ofc). Not to mention this would mean more usable nx that wasnt used on cosmetics. This would lead to the possibility of more gach for ws/cs and more AP resets adding more supply.
     
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    I agree. If they keep it as NX only, all faces and hair should be VIP. 30m in mesos for a reg hair is different than 30k in NX...
     
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    How about just doing a simple fix? Pull out chaos and white scrolls for good.

    Make current chaos and white scrolls have an expiration date of one month, hit the cancer before it spreads. And make sure to never introduce the scrolls back again. They are solely the reason for why a V62 V83 server such as Royals has become so unbalanced and the economy so messed up.

    It's time to take a stance, the nostalgic experience is no longer as desired as it used to be. IMO it's time to keep the core of the game close to the nostalgic system, but make changes for the better - buff classes such as Paladins that need buffing, nerf mages and make them supportive classes like they're meant to be. Give us that goddamn ~bosshp command we were so happy about or make HP bars. Make perfect items an actual and almost impossible achievement..

    I know not everyone shares the same opinions as I have, but that's why we're supposed to work together as a community. Let the community decide on which path the server is going, let us vote for the content we want and the content we don't. That's what NEXON didn't let us and that's why most of us grew to hate after-big-bang Maple. Don't act like NEXON did and design the game how you believe it's supposed to be, but let the players. They know what they like and they know best.
     
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    Do you have any idea how inflated footstompers and pink gaia capes would be?
     
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    I thought about it shortly after sharing my thoughts.. I guess I didn't think it completely through. The point still stands though. Those are the items that affect the economy the most. I guess it's time for WIPE HYPE. Or second server??!! No white and chaos scrolls, no PAC/PGC and FS!!! wooo ^_^'
     

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