A comprehensive Night Lord guide

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    I mean, if at lvl 175 i still got all that int. Aside from hp washing, can i just say 'hey, lets move all the ap i stored in int to luk', can i do that just like that? with all those ap resets all at once?
     
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    If i have stored all the desired ap into int at lvl 49, can i just start hp washing then already? or do i have to wait till 70?
     
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    • *Minimum MP for Thief is calculated using [(14 x Level) + 148]


    Can I just verify that this is still true, in the new source, because at 157, this makes my minimum mp 2346. But with 2425 mp (yes removed, all gear that gives additional mana) I am unable to use any ap resets on my mp. Anyone knows why? :)
     
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    I'm either blind or dont know where to look but is there a rough estimate of how much funds are needed to make a above average NL?

    I know this is subjective but for example based on this thread's AP wash requirements without HB, just the AP resets will cost probably 12bil based on today's market price.

    After that how much would gear cost? Disregarding leeching cost, assuming you don't leech at all, how much would a good craven / sleeve, PGC, FS, well scrolled zak helm (dependent on luck i know) armor , etc.

    A friend of mine said it should cost around 20-25 bil to be well equipped and have the HP wash done, does this sound right?
     
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    What is the reason to start washing after level 70? Why not after level 30? Thanks!
     
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    Perfect craven + 20 average on gear (23 bwg + 19 pgc + 18 fs) = ~125b
    Would be above average I guess.

    Then you have your untradeables (face, eye helm etc.) to chaos/ws and that's when the real fun starts :)
     
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    ** A heads up, if it weren't already obvious - my only Night Lord is not washed and thus cannot participate in the Castellan Toad boss. Thus, I won't be able to update the guide with information like I did with Horntail and BG etc. I'm also highly unlikely to ever HT again, so if it changes I won't be able to reflect the changes on my own.

    Everything else SHOULD stay up to date but...who knows anymore.
     
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    so just starting a Sin, I have 700mill. 10 attk wg, 10 dex earrings and 14 sets of Illbis . You're saying to get 75 base dex, but to stay dexless until 64?? how would I add 70 dex if i'm staying dexless?? should I add dex slowly after every few lvs like 40 at lv 20? 60 at lv 30? so often? please help
     
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    How do you calculate clean range and is it with MW20?
     
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    Yes, clean range means your range with just mw no attack potions or any buff that increases your range and such.
     
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    Thank you but I know what range means. Im asking about the formula. For example he said 180watt 105luk 119 dex- thats 45xx~8014. How can i calculate what range will i have with different items?
     
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    Ahhhhhh. I'm sorry my friend for this. I've got no clue to be honest. But you call always search up Ayumi's guide. One sec.
     
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    Max : (LUK * 3.6 + DEX + STR) / 100 * WEAPON ATTACK

    Min : (LUK * 1.944 + DEX + STR ) / 100 * WEAPON ATTACK
     
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    nice guide
     
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    anyway could help with HP wash question? not sure how to DL the calc....

    Job: Night Lord
    Level: 74
    Current HP: 2697
    Current MP: 2881
    Current Base Int: 250 (Total INT w/ equips and MW10 is 33X)
    Int Gear Total Int: 74
    HP Goal: 16,000
    Level for HP Goal: 175 (but i wish to RESET INT and be done washing AT Lv. 135 to zak and krex)
     
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    hey. something is weird about the data u gave. only 2881MP at lv 74 with this mount of base int and int eqps doesnt add up. maybe u missed some lvls when u lvld and put the eqp or late adding int..
    any way. from now on. i would suggest u to keep ur Fresh AP till lvl 135. 61 lvls will give u 305 AP. adding it to HP will give u around 6.7K hp. and then, leave 1 point to to mp wash - 1 ap in mp. using apr. taking out 12mp and adding 16-20 to HP. there are calculators in the forum but i think u can make it. just a lot of money
     
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    With the new balance changes making it cost 280k to recharge per ilbi, is it worth it to max Shadow Stars before Shadow Shifter (which also got nerfed by 10% at lvl 30), or even maxing Shadow Stars before Maple Warrior?
     
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    Dont open nl
    Wasted so many bills. Now barely avoid and spend millions on stars each day
     
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    I agree 100% . Max shadow star first due to new update. Stars cost more than pots for NL. IMO we can save pots by using fix pots like cheese which heals 4k plus 20% from skill(due to nerf) which is ~ 5k more than most boss damage. Shadow stars at level 1 probably arent worth casting anymore.

    The ridiculous update to nerf NL is only meant to nerf Unfunded NL. We could sacrifice 2 wa to swap illbi for steely and save 3x the cost of stars recharge for poor peeps like meh.
     

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