ban: may 14 ( 2months 9 days) last reply: jul 2 (21 days) Hi admins, any more updates on my appeal? i've given all the details and the appeal is still taking so long. i hope 21 days of waiting for the next response and a 2months+ ban is patient enough for a bump.
Looking into your progress and accounts we determined that while you have some farming and transaction history, you seem to have been getting chaos and white scrolls from illegitimate sources on the side to be able to afford some of these item purchases that you have made. You provided us a list of supposed white and chaos scroll purchases that you have done from december 2024 to may 2025, however some of the names you listed dont exist or are lvl 1 characters which means you couldn't have purchased scrolls from them. There's also listings of character names that you claim to have purchased 5 or 6 scrolls from which would exceed max mesos, but there's no billion meso coin transaction between any of your characters and the character you listed for those cases.
hi tim, -the list i provided is just a reference record that i made a cs ws deal in that day -name may slightly wrong and also some names may missing in my list, sometimes i forget to copy paste their name, but sightly remember their names. Trade log is with you, you can check the accuracy -ppl shout at fm i just right click or /trade to trade, tos mention 5b below i didnt have to do any DD -since i dont need do any DD, i just trade and paid in market price, you can check your trade logs -some of the deal is trade separately because of max mesos of course, then i sum up the total i purchase from them, i believe u can check from your trade logs -i not sure why you are referring that to legitimate sources when i still paying in market price -i stand at my stance that all my deal is bought in market price and i paid and i dont get any free valuable item from anyone in these months [added] lets be straight, who DD for buying ws cs and as long as im paying the right amount to the person, ive done nothing wrong right? Whether the person is illegitimate or not, no one knows, just straight up trade. I believe ws cs is not that rare and hard to find a seller, that i need to purchase from legitimate source and yet still paying market price as you claimed to be, unless you believe so? My list is just a reference for gm to refer, its MANUAL work and it may not be 100% accurate, but im sure most of the trade is listed there, im doing my very best to record everything as i can since you had go through my transaction history, can you please be more specific which and what trade are from illegitimate source as you claimed? i don't understand hows your investigation bring you to this result, but lets be clear 1. Did my account receive any valuable goods from anyone? -my answer is no, but if you can find out anything can you specific the details so that i can explain 2. Did i not pay mesos for any ws cs trade? Or is it at a very discounted price or did i looted any ws cs or whichever trade that you think is sus -my answer is as i recall there is only 1 deal that below market price that i already mention in mesos declaration and the rest are in market price. Whether the person is legitimate or not, thats not my job to find out i believe. -but if you can find out anything can you specific the details so that i can explain Also i dont understand the last statement "but there's no billion meso coin transaction between any of your characters and the character you listed for those cases." -what do you mean i dont have that much of mesos listed in those cases? do you mean i get it for free? or the list i provided is record wrongly? of course i do have the mesos to purchase all the ws cs at every character of mine, once again the list may or can be wrong, but please refer back to your log, and back to the no 2, if there is any sus trade, please give details so that i can explain. my answer: for farmer mules, i do sell ulu drops as well > slowly accumulate the mesos bit by bit > purchase ws cs > pass to main. e.g. https://filehostingsite/d0M8Ngwb [my ws cs trade record] 21 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 2 CS from frostedleech @ 470M each 23 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 1 WS from Snowblind @ 470M each 23 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 1 CS from finnbalor1 @ 475M each 24 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 3 WS from xRaymond @ 470M each 24 Dec 2024 - Zodiac purchase 1 CS from MichealNL @ 470M each 24 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 2 CS from HolyGhost @ 470M each 24 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 1 CS from HolyGhost @ 470M each 24 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 1CS 1 WS from Gimmer @ 470M each 24 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 1 WS from xJere @ 470M each 24 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 1 WS from EricSI@ 470M each 24 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 2 CS from iPokeMan @ 470M each 24 Dec 24 - Zodiac purchase 1 WS from noam8 @ 475M each 27 Dec 24 - Hippoooo purchase 1 CS from ThePoker @ 470M each 6 Jan 25 - MoonieVii purchase 1 WS from PopDrk @ 470M each 7 Jan 25 - Kangarooooo purchase 1 CS from shauncho @ 475M each 7 Jan 25 - Hippooooo purchase 1 WS from DaT0B1HSh0P @ 475M each 9 Jan 25 - Lionnnnn purchase 1 CS from LitAsHell@ 480M each 9 Jan 25 - Lionnnnn purchase 1 CS from rafciox @ 475M each 1 Jan 25 - ZODLAC purchase 3 CS 3 WS from CoffeeSinx @ 475M each 9 Jan 25 - ZODLAC purchase 1 WS from xCheesePie @ 475M each 9 Jan 25 - ZODLAC purchase 1 WS from ashree @ 480M each 10 Jan 25 Zodlac purchase 1 CS from SoRATs @ 475M each 10 Jan 25 Zodlac purchase 1 CS from InnerBeast @ 480M each 10 Jan 25 Zodlac purchase 1 CS 3 WS from [forgetIGN] @ 480M each (around 3am) 15 Jan 25 Zodlac purchase 1 WS from JokesterBish @ 480M each 15 Jan 25 Zodlac purchase 1 CS from RickNL@ 475M each 15 Jan 25 Zodlac purchase 1 CS from Holybork@ 475M each 15 Jan 25 Zodlac purchase 1 CS from LuckyToss@ 485M each 15 Jan 25 Lionnnn purchase 1 WS from falengodes @ 480M each 15 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from rafciox@ 480M each 16 Jan 25 Kangarooooo purchase 1 CS from Tchubiroba@ 480M each 16 Jan 25 Hippooooo purchase 1 CS from happyinyous @ 480M each 16 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from happyinyous @ 480M each 16 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from FrozenQueenX @ 480M each 16 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 3 CS from [forgetign] @ 480M each 16 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 CS from SoRATs @ 480M each 16 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 4 CS from Foresten @ 480M each 16 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 3 CS from inoooooooooo @ 475M each 16 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 CS from xPokoPika @ 480M each 16 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 CS from XiaoCao120@ 480M each 16 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 CS from Mrleong @ 480M each 16 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from WillFeral @ 480M each 17 Jan 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from unaruto @ 480M each 2 Feb 25 ZODLAC sold 1400 RE @ 700k each 3 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 WS 4 CS from SmithBS @ 490M each 5 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from prozplayz @ 495M each 5 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 CS from DDuck @ 500M each 5 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 WS from Hummel @ 500M each 5 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from boi4life209 @ 500M each 7 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 6 WS from SmithBS @ 500M each 7 Feb 25 Lionnnnn purchase 1 WS from icanhealyou@ 500M each 9 Feb 25 Kangarooooo purchase 1 CS from Pie2isaCAT @ 500M each 10 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 WS from finestcrash @ 500M each 10 Feb 25 Hippoooo purchase 1 CS from keen4bed @ 500M each 10 Feb 25 MoonieVii purchase 1 WS from ohtsukiyui @ 500M each 10 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from Kleptopmanie @ 500M each 10 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 WS from LuckyThief99 @ 500M each 11 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from LordGargalon @ 500M each 11 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from UglyLilGuy @ 500M each 11 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 WS from xKnuckles @ 500M each 11 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 WS from HXluvS @ 500M each 11 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 WS from MyEyesOnYou @ 500M each 11 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 WS from FinestCrash @ 500M each 11 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 WS from Eloo @ 500M each 11 Feb 25 Kangaroooo purchase 1 CS from Daryls @ 500M each 13 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 CS from spiritl @ 505M each 14 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from ZizonTank @ 500M each 19 Feb 25 Kangarooooo purchase 1 CS from gambllot@ 505M each 19 Feb 25 Lionnnnn purchase 1 WS from xKnuckles @ 500M each 19 Feb 25 Hippoooo purchase 1 WS from xKnuckles @ 500M each 20 Feb 25 ZODLACx sold 3 CS from FM shop @ 525M each 22Feb 25 Hippoooo purchase 1 WS from MRGreyB @ 500M each 26 Feb 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from Hesychia @ 508M each 1 May 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from VolleyDing @ 505M each 3 May 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 WS from miitaro @ 505M each 3 May 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 WS from BatTouSaiX2 @ 505M each 3 May 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 WS from Tnawi @ 505M each 3 May 25 ZODLAC purchase 5 WS from ShadJH @ 505M each 4 May 25 ZODLAC purchase 3 CS from ericshinn @ 500M each 4 May 25 ZODLAC purchase 2 WS from ericshinn @ 500M each 4 May 25 ZODLAC purchase 4 CS from PotatoHotdog @ 509M each 4 May 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 WS from EnragedGoku @ 505M each 4 May 25 ZODLAC purchase 1 CS from msartemis @ 505M each
[added] i want to clarify that most of my ws cs are trade in regular mesos not bil coins due to coin have tax on buyer, so there may be multiple trades.
on dec 8th 2024 you had 24 cs and 33 ws how did you get those roughly 3 months after you started playing from lvl 1?
tim i already declared mesos on 5 dec 2024 and you are also involved in the post too. In short, i planned well on getting rich, so i started as bishop and sell leech once i hit 120 then later i started to train mages to farm heartstopper then ulu1 farm at the early phase. >i did not record ws cs prior that date due to i was known we only need to dd for 5b above items >i record ws cs after dave had adviced to do so in mesos declaration post >all the ws cs i bought is from market price, i BELIEVE you can check from your log >check the long post down there [mesos declaration post] Details: As im just started to play mapleroyal around early September 2024 and spend a lot of time farming. my main source of income is selling leech/heartstopper/ulu1 quad mage farm). I personally worried about being suspicious as a newbie (3months+) with the amount of mesos holding (currently my NL is holding 23ws, 19cs and 9 coins (9b), not including any other eqs). To avoid any suspicious, I am here to declare the process of my mesos earning. Journey: >Started to play MapleRoyal around early September >for character name, i only include MAIN farming character, i did not include other low lvl storage character & low lvl open store character IGN >I just created this forum ID quite recent, zodiac as i need to start posting >i almost play everyday until now and play long hours about 6-10hours+ but will on and off afk (most of the time i will farm mesos) >for gacha, as far as i remember i only get one perfect wand 6 and it was sold about 600m+ or 700m+ >I start with BS first and after lvl120 i start selling leech to farm mesos about 70-90m per hour >Due to i may on and off to do something else (e.g rest, tired, watch drama and so on), i prefer farming that i can farm anytime instead of finding leech buyer, i have heard about heartstopper farming and i created 5 arch mages to farm heartstopper >selling leech & heartstopper i can't recall how much i target to earn daily, should be around 300m-400m (not include blue eqs sales) >While selling leech, i had heard about ulu1 farming is good for mesos, i switch my farming to ulu1 (4 mages 1 looter 2 channel) >for ulu1 farming, my daily target is about 500m-800m pure mesos daily (not include ulu1 blue eqs sales). >Most of the mesos is keep to my NL main ZODlAC (ZODLAC)
How long do you estimate it took you to get to level 120 on your bishop, and additionally when in the 3 month period did you create your other mages for farming?
oh? so we as a player need to remember or estimate how long did we progression/milestone and also have to remember when do we create each character? Anyways, for bishop, i dont really remember because i dont LOG my progression as its not required to. Anyway, its self train and i have not buy any leech, i guess it took around 1-2 weeks to reach 120. for all mages, LUCKY i did screenshot on roger quest for DD, all of them is created on september 18, most of the level is self leech by my own bishop, i may bought some leech too, can't really remember tho because buying leech is not required to LOG. it may took around 1-3 weeks to reach 120, i dont really remember tho because i dont LOG my progression as its not required to.
I don’t remember saying it was required. I was simply asking a question that may help us with your case. No need to be snarky as that isn’t helping. Regardless, thank you for clarifying that info. Tim will reply again when he is able.
Hi Bacon, my bad being snarky However, hopes that you all can also understand my frustration over this almost 3months of ongoing ban appeal. With all the info i had given so far, its still took a really long time in my opinion, i'm just a regular player thats like to far, it just feel really really bad as i didn't break any rules and i had followed all the recommendation from staff e.g. records ws cs, meso declaration+. Also, i've missed out the anniversary that would make me a tons of B because of this. Anyway, thanks bacon & tim & all the staff for the effort on investigation.
I don't really remember but this is the earliest screenshot that's with ulu farm i can find in my personal conversation, refer to the screenshot desktop datetime is 17/10/2024.
so is it possible for me to at least enjoy the end of summer events? I already missed the entire anniversary and lost a lot of potential mesos, is there any other information you guys need from me to help you solve this case?
With many other things not adding up in previous messages we ultimately concluded that it didn't make sense for you to have at least 23 chaos and 33 white scrolls on december 8th valued at around 28.5b at the time - you made a mage to become your bishop on 2024-08-30 - you started selling low level leech on 2024-09-14 at 80m/h but soon change plans to making more mages - you create 5 mages on 2024-09-18 for your farming goals - you were still talking about farming heartstoppers at 2024-10-06 - you start buying a lot of AP resets starting on 2024-10-20 for your future NL - you create your NL character on 2024-10-22 - on 2024-11-16 you claim you already spend 6B on washing (on a later date you claim 10B) - on 2024-11-16 you mention you got no cs or ws from gacha in 3 months - on dec 8th 2024 you had 24 cs and 33 ws even in the best scenario where you would be ulu farming for 500-800m a day from 2024-10-17 to 2024-12-08 (52 days) you would've made 36.4b at a rate of 700m a day if we subtract your mage equipment, nl equipment and hp washing from that you wouldnt end up at 28.5b for those ws and cs without another mysterious source of income. - your online logs don't reflect spending 5+ hours daily, every day, from 2024-10-17 to 2024-12-08 on all your mages at ulu. - you spent a lot of time on zodlac with day to day activities like getting skill books, doing halloween events for the hat, krexel etc. meaning you wouldn't be running the ulu mages at that same time
thanks for your reply What do you mean by didn't make sense that i have farmed so much? so what exactly i had done? did i RWT or my account got glitched and suddenly got rich? did you now investigation based on sense after this long appeal? So can you point out what exactly i did wrong like what you did in the other appeals? Tim, i already mention its based on the 500m-800m is based on mesos, not including blue eqs, and this is just average i might go low or higher based on my daily schedule, go ask farmer how much they can earn from equips too if you are not familiar with farming, i'm not the only farmer in royals anyway. Also, why you are using basic maths on appeal instead of finding facts? With all the prove i had given, your investigation is still based on feeling and basic maths, so what do you want me to prove now? Regards to this statement " - your online logs don't reflect spending 5+ hours daily, every day, from 2024-10-17 to 2024-12-08 on all your mages at ulu. - you spent a lot of time on zodlac with day to day activities like getting skill books, doing halloween events for the hat, krexel etc. meaning you wouldn't be running the ulu mages at that same time " Check your logs properly, i spend more time on both of my mages and zodlac, just in case you not understand how farming work, zodlac is NL, NL have mesos up skill and so ZODLAC is the looter char. I also dont spend a lot of time getting skill books, i just buy it, i doing halloween event not only for the hat, its for everything. Not to mention, for every event i will use all my mages to participate too, its not only zodlac. Quotes from solsticio banned replies 1. solsticio was unbanned based on feeling, but I remain banned based on feeling? 2. quotes "While some things still seem suspicious to us (for example loaning 45b from a friend that later RWT sold their account) we can't and won't punish you for that because we don't have any evidence showing that you may have been involved in RWT yourself." >so where is the evidence showing that I was directly involved in rule breaking? why am I not awarded the same reasonable doubt that others have been awarded?
Every ban appeal is different. For one, we do not show evidence for a myriad of reasons. It is up to the appealer to prove themselves innocent by providing answers to our questions. Most of the time this is straight forward as we don’t generally ban by mistake (although it happens sometimes), but other times people have plausible answers to our questions that ends up adding up. In your case the answers that you are providing are not adding up. As Tim stated based directly on the logs that he has access to, your farming habits (timestamped logs by the way) do not match the income that you supposedly generated in the short period of time with your spending (funding characters, etc.) taken into account. We will not be discussing another player’s appeal in yours as they are not the same. Tim can very clearly see whether your NL is with your mages and whether your mages are logged in at the same time/what they’re doing. Regarding your statement about basic math versus facts…. The “basic math” that Tim provided were indeed factual statements. The logs show you playing for x amount of time doing y activities. Those do not add up to z amount of mesos assuming you were yielding a higher earned amount of mesos. In basic math terms… the math aint mathin. Just clearing up a few things. Tim will still reply when he is able. I’d encourage you to do your best to answer to Tim’s statements in an effort to provide clarity.
