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    Please refrain from sending me further unnecessary DMs. Keep your appeal in this thread. Thanks.

    We also would like to know how you obtained your perfect RC in the first place. It seems very odd that you acquired this item seemingly out of nowhere.
     
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    I tried checking back what i can find, and uploaded the screenshot of the PM for RC purchase.

    I apologise but i will have to send you DM on this again as there are some private info, like contact number (as per previous DMs). So pls understand.
     
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    You can just censor the phone number, as it's irrelevant to us. That said, your friend "vouching" for you is just not that relevant to your appeal. We need you to focus on answering the questions clearly and directly if you wish to continue appealing.
     
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    First, i am trying to be transparent without censoring anything.

    Secondly, it’s to prove the message is from the person himself.

    Third, i tried my best finding and sent you the record I can find.

    As stated, i bought it from incostancy, buttondoll or thedel.

    i provided as much info as i can and answered your question, so it would help if @Tim can help verifying things.

    And as requested, if @Tim can check on the IP for the forum log in and dm, it should help clarifying.
     
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    - you noticing you cant log in one of your main accounts (due to it being banned), and simply giving up on it to start over would be ban evading. You were actively using one of your old accounts recently, why would you ignore your other older ones.

    - your old forum account yowtk admitting to rwt and colluding with your friend Xabiere on his rwt ban appeal, then being abandoned on nov 11 2018, which is the same date you create a new forum account is more than coincidence.

    - players from Malaysia change IP frequently, there's no verification on a 2017- 2018 IP for your ever-changing IP.

    - you claim your account may have been hacked, but you should've realized that when you started playing again and tried to log into your old (banned) account, not now that you're banned again for ban evading.
     
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    1. What i recollect is when i got back i tried logging all my old acc, nl is inaccesible for reason i dont remember, so i decided to just start anew because pretty much all friends quited anyway. And since i still manage to log in the bs/fp acc, i just use it as door/storage mule (not just recently). From my perspective at that time, I simply used the accounts I could still access and moved on rather than investigating an old account after full quiting for so long.


    2. From what i see in the PM record on yowtk, that happened in 15 May 2018, and i wasnt even playing then, which confused me when i found out yesterday.

    3. If so, is there any way i can assist in clarifying? Sadly, the laptop at that time is long gone though..

    4. Same as #1.

    If that acc is involved due to #2, my position now is a misunderstanding too..

    And since coming back in nov/dec 2018, I’ve fully abide to the rules

    Thank you for reviewing my appeal.
     
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    All of the evidence shows that it was you who requested that password change on the forum account, not your friend. It would also make sense that you were not actively playing the game at that time. Seems that you were not planning on coming back, and so when your mate told you they were permanently banned but really wanted to play, you tried to take the hit for them.

    We also noticed yesterday that you had no problem at all logging out of this forum account, and then immediately into the other forum account, and went directly into your DMs. The fact that you had no trouble logging in, and then knew there was something there you wanted to look at in your DMs and screenshot, is even further evidence that the forum account was not hacked.

    There is also absolutely no evidence whatsoever that your game accounts were hacked.

    Not really, given that ban evading is against the rules.
     
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    To clarify, the reason i reset my pw and log into old forum acc yesterday was to find evidence on RC. And that’s when i found the DM to Tim. And i reviewed my existing post/threads, not just DM.



    Regarding the DM to Tim, from my perspective, the message itself would not have helped overturn xabiere’s ban.

    As I mentioned, I have historically reused the same IDs and passwords for every game i’ve played. Xabiere was familiar with my MapleSEA account and he has provided his own explanation regarding that situation.
     
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    The person to change your forum account password and log into your forum account in May 2018 was you, not Xabiere though...

    On top of that, he wouldn't have even needed to reset the password if he already knew what it was, as you seem to think he did.
     
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    The email shows that a password change occurred from IP 115.164.72.242 on that date.

    I understand this does not by itself prove who initiated the change. However, I wanted to provide it because it is one of the few records from that period that I was able to locate.

    I still do not recall requesting a password change at that time. Additionally, as mentioned, I have always reused the same IDs and passwords across the games I have played, which is why finding a password change from that period was unexpected.

    Given how much time has passed, I can only provide my honest recollection of the events and any records I am still able to find.
     
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    Yes, which seems to be an IP address you had, not your friend's IP address.
     
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    I cannot independently verify whether that IP was mine at the time, nor can I dispute it after so many years. I can only provide my honest recollection of the events.

    I did find the May 2018 password reset email while reviewing my records, but I do not recall requesting that reset myself. Likewise, the activity being discussed from that period does not align with my recollection.

    My main point throughout this appeal has been that when I returned to the game in late 2018, I did not knowingly continue playing with the intention of evading a ban. I returned after a long absence, found one old account inaccessible, continued using the accounts I could still access, and started fresh.
     
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    I would also like to clarify that my position has consistently been that the original RWT conclusion was incorrect.

    At the time, I provided evidence that the item in question was being sold, and I also provided evidence showing where it originated from. To my knowledge, those points were never addressed in the decision.

    Because of that, I continue to dispute the underlying RWT conclusion itself.

    My understanding is that the current “ban evasion” finding stems from that original ban. If the original conclusion was incorrect, then that is why I believe the current situation may be based on a misunderstanding as well.

    I understand staff may disagree with that assessment, but I wanted to make my position clear.
     
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    We are not just interested in where that RC came from, but also in how it was funded.
     
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    I honestly do not have records from that period and can only rely on my recollection.

    To the best of my recollection, my income at the time primarily came from selling leech on my Bishop/FP, gachapon. However, this was many years ago and I cannot state with certainty the exact source of every transaction.
     
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    getting a perfect weapon is a big deal in a players' career and most would remember their struggles, strategies and hours invested towards obtaining their first one.
    based on the messages above with the main account being banned, forum account helping vouch for a rwt friend, matching information with you as you restarted and all we will have you remain banned for ban evading an (assisted) rwt ban
     
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    thank you for the reply.

    First of all, it’s nearly 10 years ago stuff, please understand that we are playing a game and there wasnt any rules on doing all the accounting back then. And as I mentioned, i most likely sell leech and gachapon for it.

    secondly, i did not send the forum pm to vouch myself. That pm is totally useless in helping someone to get unban from rwt. It’s just a suicide message.

    I did restarted a few months after these happened, and sadly with such coincidence, i understand. But i did not do any rwt which would got be banned in the first place. Since the main issue is him rwt the claw, i believe you have certainly checked who traded him.
     

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