Bans & Ban Appeals: let's taco bout it

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    So what you're saying is, no matter how unfair a rule or law is, simply because it exists, it should be enforced to its full extent? By this logic, since you're also drawing from the real world, women shouldn't have the right to vote, in the US blacks would still be slaves, etc. because in the past that was the law. If you happen to be in N. Korea and look at a picture of their "glorious leader" wrong you might get tossed in jail because "rules are rules". Is that a country you really want to be in?

    The GMs and Admins are here to foster a better community and player experience, not throw the fucking book at every minor infraction. Experiences like this make the game unpleasant, to say the least. OP had no monetary gain or any other benefit other than getting ease of mind that her account wasn't banned. And sure as hell no one was victimized in the process. Continuing your real world example that's like charging an 18 yo with statutaory rape for having sex with their 17 y/o S.O. Those laws exist for a reason but were innapropriately used for the given scenario.
     
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    Well thank you for proving my point that the real world isn't fair. I was hoping to get that point across to the other guy. Also, I never said the rules were unfair or wrong. That seems to be your opinion.

    By downloading and playing the game, you agreed to their rules and regulations. Don't start crying because you messed up.

    And as I said, in my opinion they are actually too lenient with rule breakers.
     
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    Right, we both agree that the real world is unfair. But what I'm saying is that even in the real world rules/laws can be changed. Isn't it the GM's job to take community feedback and make it a better environment?

    Your opinion is they're not harsh enough, and you're entitled to that. But the general consensus on this forum seems to be that it was a bullshit call and did more harm than good.
     
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    There's some nice discussion in this thread. One thing I'd like to bring up is the visibility of the rules. It would help if the rules, at least the major infractions, showed up on the registration page itself, instead of hidden away in the T&C link.
     
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    Quoting this from one of my friends; "Just play legit and you're fine."
     
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    I totally agree with people that want to have punishment out of context. Punishment regardless the situation is not a good practise imo.

    Usually in most countries in the real world, a judge will look at every case more or less individually, especially for big things like "permanent bans". Minor things are usually handled faster but "permanent bans" from the real world are usually a big deal for judges and they take a lot of things into consideration before granting them.
    There is war zones and pretty extreme places on this planet, but I dont see a point to have such an extreme way of "brutality" in a game: Eg. if you cross this line I will shoot you - you slip and fall over it - boom - you're dead - because you broke the rules. Yes, technically, you broke the rules, but does this really feel appropriate to you guys? oO
    Also, "traveling with a bit of drugs in your pockets getting you a death penality" - this is absolutely extreme - especially when taken out of context.
    I dont see why punishments like these have to occur in a game just because crazy sh** like this happens on planet earth in some places. Eg. what if you did not put the dope into your pockets or did not know that this was dope? Does it really make sense to enforce laws in such a way? (well at least a dead person will never transport drugs by accident again at least)

    I think that GMs should take some time to judge bans out of context.
     

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