Berserking

First off, chill out. Just because this is an open forum doesn't mean you have to right to disrespect me and everyone else who puts down their thoughts and opinion.

Since you're a Dark Knight, you can use Dragon's Roar to farm some low level mobs for high priced resources and scrolls. I've known a few Dark Knights that have done this and worked out for them. Rather than look at the issue as a one-sided issue, figure out something you can do on your end and take in consideration what others have said already on this thread.

 

It doesn't cost "billions" to HP wash a DK either, just for the record. With the numbers I put in the post before, it'd only cost 1.5bil in resets if you didn't level at all and if you had already saved your AP up to now. With leveling you can probably cut that number in half. 750mil or so isnt terribly hard to get, DKs are great at farming stuff. Use your NX on gacha and you'll easily make that much money.
What level are you right now and how much HP do you have right now? Whats your MP at (without a deputy star or any equips that give MP)?

 

can you tell me where i disrespected you?

And uhm, well ask people from boobs. I'm already farming alot on master chronus for 60% helmet dex. people already told me that i got insane focus etc. guess what, I got 200m or so. I bought some leeches, equips and some scrolls. buying leeches might be a stupid thing. But after i grinded 8-9 lvls a day I wanted to give myself a little boost with 1 leech. After lvl 112 grinding at himes became so slow and i'm way to weak to grind at a better place. so then i started to farm dex scrolls like crazy and buy alot more leeches to the 4th job. but since I also needed to get some more lvls to raise berserk to 20, so that's what i've been doing the past 2-3 days. so i spended 80-120m a day to get 2 lvls. but when i was at chronus i was always asking guildies/friends to come with me as a looter. i would 50/50 then so when i made 100-150m a day, i actually had farmed for 200-300m. why do i need a looter? because scrolls were dropping out of my sight. and if i have to go of my roar spots in the middle to check the edges i lose alot of time. i'm better of with someone looting then missing scrolls. atleast i can help friends/guildies making money this way to.

i wanted to grind till 130 as soon as i could since then you rlly picking up strenght as a dk thanks to berserk. after that i would start making money for gear and lvl myself agian but well.

 

I'm lvl 126, hp:8560 MP:852

 

Assumign that's without HB...
With that you can already wash 48 times.
(Valuing AP resets at 8mil each, that about 385 mil).
10 levels of *just* resetting that out gives you 2496 HP. (Which also puts you at zakum level).
Leveling up I think would give you another 560 alone. Without HB thats' 3056 HP. Bringing your base to 11,616 HP without HB.
With HB that's 18,585 HP. See where I'm getting at? It's relatively easy for you to get HP and it wont cost billions upon billions of mesos. You don't need to make a bishop just to HP wash the minimum to safely zerk with just zerk20.

 

It's 100% your own fault for rushing it.
As a DK I really need to stress that this is NOT hard to do at all, you just didn't inform yourself properly.
I don't even see why there is a discussion here. DKs need HP washing to Zerk, and Resets are not that expensive compared to say, making a perf spear.
I washed from 90-130 and had 30k HP with Zerk 20. It took nearly all my money from my pockets but It was doable.

Sorry If I am a bit harsh, but people who try to suggest Game Revisions just to save themselves from their own problems...thats just a no go.

 

dude, i checked maple europe. then i decided to check if there any good oldskool server. since i also played the first private server ever "odinms" i wanted to play oldschool agian. do you actually think i've ever seen anyone do hp washing before in the real ms? only thing i heard is that fangblade found out about it. but no one wash in global or europe. not even in the old days. I found this server, made an account, made an dk wich i loved most from old days and started to plvl. how should i know all this. i've seen the hp washing guide around when i checked forum. i checked it and i was like, ah yea i can get more hp this way when i'm higher lvl and more funded. when i played global and eu old days i always thinked like this > the higher your lvl the easier money comes. how could i know i screwed up my char more and more the higher i became.

 

and game revisions? like i invented the zerking lower than 50% at max and 40% at 20 ... nexon changed it for the very same problems i'm fighting now but well gave up on that.

 

They also decided that 'Super' items and Dual Blades were okay.

 

You argue that it's not possible to pot to zerk and himes and I argue that I could do it without too much hassle. Maple is a pretty simple game, you hit attack and hit pot, just because you can't spam pots non-stop on a DrK doesn't make it impossible. You've simply made it more of a challenge.

 

Beholder's heal also helps with potting, it doesn't heal higher than zerk threshold afaik.

Also sila, non-thief classes don't wash that way, he needs to float one point in hp and keep taking out of mp and adding to hp until he runs out of mp, ie he only needs 1 ap to wash all his mp. You also end up with 52.5hp on average, instead of 52, with the floating ap method on warrior.

 

When I was washing out my Hero, 55 was actually quite rare (Don't think I've ever even got a 55) so the average is probably around 51 or so.

 

If you look at the code that pheelo posted, the range is rand(20-25) + hp improveskill. This means either (in order of likelyhood):
- your non-average result is because your sample size is not large enough
- your perception of your hp gain is flawed
- the code posted there is wrong, and hence the recommendations about how to wash are completely irrelevant
- rand is implemented extremely poorly, and as it's probably a separate library implementation, this shouldn't be the case

Spoiler: aside

As to the last point, a lot of implementations don't have perfect distribution, but it shouldn't be noticeable. If that was C's rand function, then the last two values would actually occur about 1/6400 times less than the first three, which would shift the average over slightly, and that's disregarding the fact that C's rand isn't even that well distributed.

 

The entire tone of tha majority of your posts so far in this thread has been nothing but inflammatory and disrespectful.

You told me you were getting 4 of those scrolls an hour. 200m then, is 4 hours farming. 4 hours is a joke in the scheme of this game.

Yes, buying leech was stupid, which I've told you and everyone else in the guild a dozen times. First, leech drains your wallet exactly so that you run in to the issue of being weak when you get to a higher level. Second, it skews your perception of leveling speed and the ease at which it can be done, making you feel like levelling is impossible now when you can no longer afford to effectively leech.

Additionally, to get 8-9 levels a day you were probably pq'ing the whole way. If you want the #1 way to end up poor, it would be PQ'ing and buying leech. This is also something I regularly say (probably at least twice a day) in guild chat.

There is no better place for a 112 DK to grind than himes, it doesn't matter how good your equips are. Himes are FANTASTIC exp in 11x. Hell, I was grinding at himes until my early 130s when I wasn't hunting nisrocks, skill books, or killing bosses. And I was doing it with unfunded equips and 100 base int.

"this didn't work out for me very well before..... hmmm.... might as well try it again, it will definitely work better this time!"

I'm one of the richest members of boobs, by a long margin. I made nearly all of my money through merching, and I made 50-60m on my BEST days. And my income rate was considered pretty fast. I don't know what you're complaining about here.

but well what? Why can't you still do this?


TL; DR you went in to your character without a plan, and it didn't turn out to be incredibly OP with no effort like you wanted it to be. Suck it up, and play the game like the rest of us.

 

I just wanna state my opinion, Drks in my opinion are supposed to be somewhat difficult because of zerk, why would they want to change that? And honestly, all you really needed to do was plan ahead, you just needed to put maybe 40-50 int with AP and then you could use the NX you get daily, and hp wash. Not very difficult. And you are making it seem like it is impossible to train a drk past 120 without hp washing. I know a few drks who leveled past 12x without hp washing at all or maybe just a little im not 100% sure about that. I can name 2 right now, Ludgate 15x and Mello 13x both did little to no hp washing seems like they are doing alright. At 12x-13x it usually doesnt get a huge amount easier to level just because you dont have all your skills yet, you just need to push through and grind your butt off and eventually you will start realizing that this change is not really needed.

 

Also, Royals has MUCH bigger issues to deal with than making DRKs easier. This server has mad lag and the gms are(I believe) working on that right now. That should be the main priority right now.

 

@jmmainvi, richest on the server with 40-60m a day lawl? that's what your thinking but prolly far from the truth. there ppl who make a bill a day if they want to. and about the scrolls, it was prolly on that moment I just only looted 4 scrolls. sometimes 3 scrolls in an hour sometimes 8 or so. depends on your luck. but I think the average I make is 80-100m an hour on that spot. but know that dk's is the best class to farm on mob's in the old days.

first of all, i didn't disrespect/abused/harassed anyone here. you can at mostly say my posts are pretty aggressive but I was frustrated as hell. but if I think something is bullshit then my oppinnion is that it's bullshit and i'm allowed to say that whenever I want. if you go apeshit when your reading words like bullshit, wtf, or whatever then leave my thread. i'm not forcing you to read and comment here so don't say things which you can't back-up. if I was way to far out of line a gm prolly would have said something about it already but they didn't.

ppl keep telling me about a plan -.- this is what i've read op top100 "Game Description :Join MapleRoyals and re-live your childhood!". they also say that they copy old days gms. i've played old days gms > no hp washing there. so how am I suppose to know I have to wash? I couldn't have. any person who never washed on a private server and joins this one from nexon's ms doesn't know much about it, period.

about grinding himes, I know there is no better place but everytime you lvl, you have to gain alot more exp. the reason why there is a 4th job is to boost your dmg so your grinding goes alot faster and keeps a little up with that. if im berserking I grind olmost 2 times faster then without. meaning my exp/h olmost doubles. thats why berserking is the most important thing. if you can't berserk, your grinding on a 3th job level. meaning that from level 130-140 it gets ridiculously hard to level yourself if you can't use your 4th job skills.

this thread can be closed since apparently nobody gives a shit about the fact that hp wash didnt existed on gms.

 

It did exist in Gms. It was just not as common because ap resets cost real money and to properly wash a dk to the full extent would cost hundreds of rl dollars. People did wash still- watch old videos of people bossing and you'll see them say "x person is really washed, he's fine" etc.