Community Blacklist

@Geto this you?

 

Just adding because I'm a bit hurt - Geto talked shit about me behind my back continuously while I was always nice to him and considered him a friend. I shouldn't be surprised with his forum behavior but I was, so ye. Be careful who you choose to befriend I guess.

 

how can gm or any staff member keep he's chars and guild+alliance once becoming staff is really beyond me.
doesnt make sense...
it can easily lead to rule breaking and other shananigans to say the least...
especially after so many gm's breaking the rules lately and in general.
why take the risk of lettin ppl with alot of power play favorites...
and im sayin this without relation to the drama, power "corrupts" anywhere u look and usually in everyway aswell.
we had gm's leakin gm's rwt, gm's abuse ban and forum ban's (in the past present and im pretty sure now that in the ffuture too).
u wanna have a fun server try holding everyone to a certain standard..


i dont care for the drama in anyway but i cant be the only one who see's this...
if i win the lottery u can be damn sure ill buy my friends some stuff, isnt it the same thing?

 

GM can also be player, nothing wrong about that, GM is not subject to any benefit from the server with their role/ normal character.
You might wanna check this^ out, they've changed GM privilege sometime ago.

 

The difficulty here is, we need GMs. People who want to be a GM are people who enjoy this game, and they ofc wouldn't want to give up playing to be a GM. It's not a paid job, GMs and even admins are all volunteers that do it because they love the game and server. So unless you want to make the server subscription based and hire a GM that's not allowed to play the server, this seems like the best option to me.

 

I know some Ohms guild members are speaking badly of you and calling you a "glitch JR" and I'm here to put this to rest. You are one of the kindest people I know and a true gambling maniac.

IGN: myself (Bunnymon/Poopymon/Needymon)
REASON: It was my fault 2-lane got banned, Friendly had nothing to do with it.

DETAILS:

I shocked at how much EXP my characters were receiving from the 2-lane strategy. It was my first week using it, but during that time I engaged in several conversations over Buddy Chat discussing how crazy the strategy was and that the method most likely fell in the glitch abuse category. During one of my runs I was contacted by a GM to have them sit in and watch how it was done. I obliged, they sat and watched for a few minutes, and left shortly after.

Hours later, there was a server-wide and forum announcement that anyone abusing two-lanes would be punished and or banned. The few minutes watching our LHC run was obviously enough for Royals staff to deem it as "glitch abuse".

So sorry guys, it was my bad. Don't blame Friendly. And also, please stop talking shit behind everyone's backs. I know some of you really like doing it. You know who you are.

 

i also blame poopymon for this

 

Nooo but I was already getting shit why would u do this I was ok with it
Anyway <3

 

bunnymoon be like

 

I’m not here to defend anyone because, frankly, I don’t care about your drama. However, I find it baffling that a GM can post a blacklist topic targeting a player, and that’s considered acceptable, but when someone creates a blacklist topic targeting a GM (acting as a regular player), it’s not allowed. That double standard is beyond me.

Even if the person accusing the GM (acting in their civilian capacity) is using an anonymous account, I can understand why they might choose to remain anonymous—especially given that people are only supposed to have one account. Let’s be honest: many players are sucking up to GMs and are likely to side with them, making it difficult for others to speak up openly.

 

That's 100% not true, Tim already stated that they can file a report with GM acting as a player, but no one in this forum can have 2nd account to hide their identity it's simply a rule that everyone have to follow

Just say "I love explicit bias" next time, it'll do

 

Objectively, there’s a significant difference between a GM reporting someone for the community blacklist—essentially exposing them to everyone on the server—and submitting a private report on the forums, which is visible only to server staff. Additionally, the outcomes of such private reports are something we’re unlikely to ever be involved in or take part of. Big, big, big difference.

EDIT:

This, combined with Tim's comment, essentially implies: "Hey, GMs can act as both private individuals and GMs on the forum, but the community can't criticize (report) them openly in their private role because they're also GMs."

wtf

 

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Idk man you need to re-read all that again, I'm seeing that you completely misunderstood Tim.
The original BL entry was created by a player - that already have their forum account, but they created a new one just to filed a report on Foxy. No one in this forum may have 2 separate account, that's a written rule.
There are cases that users got their forum accounts merged because staff discovered that they have different forum accounts - nothing related to GMs at all.
I hope you can get a correct view on this specific situation.

 

Ah yeah true, you're right. My bad.

Public question: Are we allowed to speak for someone else though? For example, if this anonymous person reaches out to me. Am I allowed to post it on his behalf? Couldn't find anything in the rules against that.

 

However in cases for player reports, many times us players do not have concrete evidence to get them banned.

Think of your average new skele leech buyer who got scammed. Most players do not have the concrete evidence of the entire trade transaction and recording of them logging off with their money so they post it on the blacklist for visibility.

As one of the people who claimed was affected, my sources have been sent to Tim but they are mostly word of mouth. I heard almost all of it went on through voice chatting. I myself didn’t even know I was perma banned, I didn’t tell a soul as my soul itself wasn’t even aware yet the status of my ban was aware to dozens of ingame players.

To me this topic is both a staff and a community issue, as the community was involved. And so be it, maybe it’s not feisty. But I’m sure as damn hell it was a staff member that leaked my ban status.

I’ve had multiple people inform me it was spoken about in their voice calls, and no it isn’t Geto. I don’t like Geto, we aren’t friends like that lol.

As a result, I likely don’t have enough evidence to get them removed off of staff, just like how billybob doesn’t have enough evidence to get xxskeleleecherxx banned for scamming. So why can’t players put their side of the story on the community blacklist and let shira decide.

Even if Matt/Tim believes us, it is unlikely in my opinion feisty is removed from staff. The amount of shit Pure/Saturn did until they finally removed him is much more than what Feisty may or may not have done. And Matt would be in a real difficult spot having to look for more unpaid qualified volunteers. He just went through the trouble after two of his long tenured staff members that rwted/duped and had to overhaul staff powers. I’m not saying Matt doesn’t take this issue seriously, but if I was him, even if I believe in the accusations, I would probably give Feisty a warning and move on with it because there’s already a severe lacking of manpower. So, I’m supposed to just here knowing I got 100% wronged?

Just like blacklist posts, if there is enough community and anecdotal evidence, why can’t we create a new blacklist community section as this is a new situation.

Staff Abuse

I full heartedly believe Shiratsuyu should consider making a new section for Staff Abuse.
This is a scenario where we don’t have (at least I don’t) enough evidence to get her banned/removed. In addition, she should stay on that list even if she is removed from staff. Personally I would put Pure/Saturn on the Staff Abuse community blacklist section if he still played/wasn’t banned already.

People who are eventually temp banned for scamming. They do not get removed from the community blacklist just because they serve their 7-14 day temporary ban. Feisty should stay and people should know she was blacklisted by the community for sharing sensitive staff information to players even if she returns to a normal player. Regardless if she is or isn’t removed by staff, as it has become a community issue for getting the community involved.

A different example:
If Becca was talking shit about me in the staff chat and laughing at my banned status with other staff members. A bit distasteful, but ultimately this is within the staff chat, and in my opinion, not a community issue. This is a scenario where it got leaked outward to the community, so it is both a staff and a community issue.