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  1. Yonatan100
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    Sorry, I havent noticed. I have been busy the past few days, so have not had time for this. You had an opportunity to contact me a few days ago man, I was online on my Bishop for a few hours a few days ago.
    I need 4 IGN's of the 4 people who were scammed. Please write me their IGNs if you have them? Or please give me yours + the other guy who was with you on that day we met for the leech.
    Sorry, been a few busy days for me lately, but I promise you will get your refund. However, you must understand I'm not going online just for that purpose and we're not in the same timezone.
    Also, I'd like to refund all 4 people, not just 1. If I refund you and the other 3 dont get a refund, they will start complaining about why I refunded you and didnt refund them.
    But, everyone will receive the refund.
    By the way, does the Duey delivery thing work? Or something. A way I can send mesos to offline players through packages and such.

    Edit - I have an idea. Put up a store in FM and I'll purchase an item for the same price as the refund you deserve.
     
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    I don't think that its my duty to keep track of when you are/are not online as I believe in this situation I am the victim, and as YOU mentioned within your own comments within this thread that you would like to compensate the people involved. I was merely stating the fact that you could reference my comment within the thread which actually contains the IGN's of my characters which were supposed to get leech from you, and I have seen 0 effort from you to buddy me/look for me.

    About your 'start complaining about why I refunded you and didn't refund them', you mentioned in your own post 'Even if I find just 1 or 2 that would be better than finding 0 of them.'. So please do not make it my problem that you, the supposed leech seller scoots off with our hard earned mesos and in turn expect me to solve your problems.

    Also, from my understanding duey does not work. I have placed a summoning rock at my shop @ 1-3 @70m which you have scammed me off for MB1 leech before running off to scam a FTP leech iirc. Hope to see my refund soon. :)
     
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    What the fuck.. I am sorry but this is one of the worst and rudest comments you could have wrote.

    "However, you must understand I'm not going online just for that purpose and we're not in the same timezone"
    But going online to scam then going offline is fine.

    "Also, I'd like to refund all 4 people, not just 1. If I refund you and the other 3 dont get a refund, they will start complaining about why I refunded you and didnt refund them."
    So what you're saying is, if you do not manage to find all 4 scammed people to refund at ONCE then it's "rude" to refund only 1.

    ._.

    I would recommend changing store location and DMing him the new spot in-case someone else reads this and decide to try and get that money instead of you, cause people....
     
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    First of all, I'd like to admit I'm still frustrated by the fact you decided to report instead of waiting for me to possibly refund before I was banned. The fact I had to be banned for 14 days is unfair, even though I admit I probably deserved this punishment. But, we're not getting into that right now.
    Basically, you're thinking in the wrong direction about this, and I think there's some misunderstanding, so let me make a few things clear first of all.
    Let's begin with, I am not accusing you of doing something wrong about the refund or the compensation I offer. I didnt mean its your duty to look for me, I meant you should atleast try to do so if you can and its not a big deal to you. If its such a hassle and you're exhausted from that, you dont have to. It was just a simple request. I didnt say its your duty. I was just trying to say, it wasnt easy to find you online and I havent found you online, whether its because of timezone issues or something else, so thats why I asked if you can also look for me. Thats all. I dont understand why you're making a big deal out of it, and making it sound as if it was a demand. It was just a simple request, and even if you cant do it, I will find you myself eventually. It just would take longer, so you cant complain the refund is taking too long to arrive if you arent trying to find me too.

    With that being said, I also would like to say, you need to appreciate the basic fact first, and that is, that I am willing to even refund and provide a compensation as well. Another player, who was banned for 14 days and feels it was unfair(which, honestly, is legitimate to feel its unfair even if you disagree with that), wouldnt ever think about refunding the players that reported him and even offering any kind of compensation beyond a refund. You need to appreciate that, much more than you do now. I havent ever heard you saying even "thank you for willing to refund/compensate". Instead, you come to me with accusations, complaints, etc. Dude, I'm doing this out of kindness. Relax. No one from Staff have told me I have to refund / compensate after I'm unbanned. I decided to do it out of kindness.

    To conclude things up, you will get the refund the moment I can find you. If you want to make it happen faster, then do what I say and help me with what I ask to do it faster. If not, it will take longer.
    I will purchase the item if I can find the store there which you put it up.
     
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    boy you hit the nail on the head. hope this gets through, and seeing that youre new, i would like to offer you an hour of free leech :)
    add my bishop, bloodsicle, and when were both up, i will give you an hour of free leech at a location of your choosing (excluding petris or dukus)
    scammers are the exception to leechers in this server and i hope you will have a better experience in the future :)
     
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    Dude you're triggering the shit out of me wtf is that logic. I am out, I will just point up multiple "DAFUQ" moments while reading your reply.

    "First of all, I'd like to admit I'm still frustrated by the fact you decided to report instead of waiting for me to possibly refund before I was banned."
    They tried to wishper you, you dc'ed. They would have not received any refund, we're no fools.

    "The fact I had to be banned for 14 days is unfair"
    Not fair? I would argue it is not enough. Drives me crazy that you still do not understand why you were banned and why it makes sense.

    You keep saying how you worked so hard to find the buyers but you did not manage to, I followed the post on community blacklist and found it in 4 seconds and sent it to you which makes me believe this part to be a lie:
    "I was just trying to say, it wasnt easy to find you online and I havent found you online"

    You're special, and I am done before I get some warning point.
     
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    Will be commenting as Sen isn't available for now to focus on his personal stuff

    To clarify things from Staff's view, the above mentioned is not true

    As per the reporting guidelines,
    • Record the entire interaction to protect yourself and properly report the scammer in question.
    • Include evidence of agreement (agreed price of item/service, items included in trade, ~servertime, party window, your exp bar (if buying leech) etc.) In the case of expeditions or boss runs, please ensure that the agreement on who is entitled to what is settled prior to entering the expedition, and that this is clearly visible in the evidence.
    • Include evidence that agreement wasn't met (include ~servertime command to show time duration, screenshots of person offline or gone, your exp bar, party window)
    • Include evidence that the other part doesn't intend on rectifying the issue (chat screenshots, etc).
    • Please understand that Staff does not refund/return/pay back any transactions.
    The victims are required to attempt to contact the 'scammer' before the GMs proceed with the ban, the GMs do not ban simply cause someone reported
    We fully understand a person may disconnect due to network issues or blackout, and will encourage the victim to contact the 'scammer' such as Buddying

    If the 'scammer' disappeared for few days, such as 3 days to a week, we can only assume the person has no intention to return the meso
    Furthermore, more than one report(s) were made against you, so I am quite disappointed that you said stuff such as "you decided to report instead of waiting for me to possibly refund"

    You did not stop scamming just because you felt bad, you stopped doing so only because you were banned and being told it will be a permanent ban if continued to do so

    I honestly hope you will not scam anymore, and also resolve the matters with the victim instead of escalating the matter here
     
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    at this point your responses are emberassing yourself and lowering your reputation SO MUCH. you really need to think about what youre typing HE sshould be GRATEFUL for you returning the money you STOLE from him?
    you had a week from when you scammed him to when you got banned. you keep trying to throw the blame at others on the one hand, dodging responsibility, and on the other hand complaining youre still on the blacklist as a leech scammer , which by all means, you are. you did not learn your lesson from the ban, it is very obvious that much, and your resonses are not only lowering the reputation of leechers in the server, but of israelis as well.
    take the fault, stop dodging responsibility. whether you pay him back or not is not the matter at this point, your attitude is.
     
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    he wouldn't even think about a refund or an apology if he wasn't banned lol , in fact he would even keep scamming other buyers
     
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    that's all I have to say. @Yonatan100 you should read this.
     
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    i know right?
    puts shame to us israeli leechers
    edit: every time i read that comment it makes me angrier lol
     
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    wee have our disagreements but this case thankfully aint one of them :)
     
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    yup , after reading all of his comments I can clearly tell that the only thing bothering him is his name listed on the blacklist , and I am pretty sure that if his name wasn't flagged here he wouldn't care about the people he scammed opinions' , obviously wouldn't refund too
     
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    i love this paragraph so much thats like a robber stealing some shit getting arrested then telling the victim they should be happy theyre even getting the stuff back your logic makes absolutely no sense and you should really rethink your life outlook my dude
     
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    I created a new thread in Hebrew about this issue with Israeli players, under the Hebrew subforum. Please discuss this with me there.
    But, in Hebrew as they say:
    לגנבים ורמאים אין תקווה
    and all that. Or, in English, "no hope for thiefs and cheaters", or something.
    But I admit there are relatively alot of Israeli's who scam and cheat, but I fail to understand how our country matters in this case

    Edit by Dave: removed divisive comments
     
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    I mean tbh reading your post and your reply on my thread made me laugh so hard so thank you for that!
     
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    But its serious, man. Its not a joke. Dont you see how high crime rates are in/near Tel aviv, and in the north and south of Israel its much lower?
     
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    welp... your chance of getting your name to be "eventually" removed from the blacklist has gone poof.
    There is literally no chance of redemption for you as you "demand" the victims to find you for refund.
    The conversation between you and others sure are hilarious.
     
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    yeah, especially with it being before he did the smaallest attempt at refunding his victims too lol. and he's right, he IS representing the worst israelis there are, and has no hope of redemption from the blacklist at this point.
     
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