Does the server have any plans on adding custom end-game?

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  1. Anesthetize
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    I would like some custom mini/area bosses like BF, Anego, Pianus, ECT..

    or if this server would ever add Boss PQ... Its been talked about pre wipe!
     
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    @Benizakura I just want to suggest that maybe you should try to catch up on the forums and the game itself before trying to post suggestions or comment on things.. If you dont even know what Krex is, or that we've had events for every holiday (including custom content for said holidays such as the Halloween and Anniversary JQ), then you should try to catch up first.
    I've been here 2 years. Almost actively played for the entire 2 years, took a small break in the middle but still kept up with the forums.
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    End game is different for everyone. Some people focus on getting the best gear they can. Some focus on getting a bunch of characters to level 200. Some just want to hang out with friends. There's nothing wrong with suggesting new content. I'd be all for something 'new' for end game players to break up the routine of o2/o4/krex/zak/HT. CWKPQ is a promising start. Dojo is one too. I'm not sure about chaos bosses because I never participated in them in GMS.
    As an example, even if, say, Scarlion and Targa came out even WITHOUT helms, it would still be a new boss. A new area for end game players to reach, to defeat, and to have fun with. It took the server about a year to find out all of the in and outs of horntail and how to be most efficient.

    (Personal side note, I'd love new areas to explore, to quest and boss in. But what's nostalgic to some is different to others. I enjoyed Cygnus knights and Kerning mall in GMS, I had fun with my battle mage when they came out. But what I didn't like around that time period was all the map changes that big bang brought. Some people think Arans are still nostalgic. It's to each their own in that case!)
     
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    I know what Krex is i've seen too many videos, still krex is more like new school and so is aran job.. Aran and KoC is too new school. And yeah i've been here since 2013 and i know what's happening here, i just don't want certain things to happen, because i've seen this in other private servers too and basically ruined the server >_> Why do we have to add some stupid end game bosses/maps and new party quests like bossPQ for end game? Still gonna ruin the nostalgia and the mapleroyals we knew. And i said '' more new events'', because i've made my own events here as well and i think you have joined it too >_> Of course big bang patch was fun for the first few weeks, until people realized this isn't the maplestory we knew anymore.
     
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    So let me ask you a question then, one I've generally been curious to hear about from all the players that are against new content: Are you in any way forced to play our new content and if it doesn't then how does it ruin your nostalgic feeling? To put this question into comparison with a similar real life situation: When I was a kid there was no online gaming because the best internet we had was a 56k dial up connection so I played football and such instead, however nowdays a lot of people play online games so you could see this as new content. Am I in any way forced to play online games or can I just play football and never touch this new content if I so desire? For me the answer is simple as I believe I wouldn't ever have to touch the new content if I don't want anything to do with it. Of course I would feel differently about it if the new content would be unavoidable and in my face everywhere I go, but I don't believe it is in this case.

    If I'm overlooking something or am just plain wrong then please let me know, but I am really curious to know how exactly it ruins the nostalgic feeling if you aren't forced to play the content.

    Edit: This is not me promoting the idea of adding Gollux or Root Abyss, but only wondering why people are against content that was already implemented somewhere around v62 - v83.

    Edit 2: With football I mean the sport you play by kicking a ball with your foot, not American Football.
     
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    I can only give my own answer to that, but in my opinion things are forced when the competitive advantage is significant.

    The current anniversary event is an example of this. You can choose not to do it, but you will lose out on a lot of money and whether you do it or not, the economy is affected just the same.

    I also think your comparison is flawed, a more accurate comparison would be to imagine they changed the rules and you can now use your hands in football. You're not forced to use your hands, but that doesn't mean you're not handicapped if you don't.

    You can be affected by new content even if you don't participate.
     
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    My apologies for the confusion, but when I mentioned football in my example I meant the game where you kick a ball with your foot, not American Football where you are allowed to use your hands.

    My question was purely aimed towards us adding content such as CWKPQ where there is absolutely no need for a player to ever go there (Assuming the MoN we get is nerfed, if we even get it at all), which means that at no point in time you have to play this piece of content added by us as it's purely optional.
     
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    There was no such confusion, that sport is exactly what I meant. Just imagine them adding a rule saying that you could use your hands.

    To a lesser extent it is sort of like that, if the competitive advantage of doing something is significant then I think you can consider it forced. One solution is to nerf the gains (like you are suggesting), or perhaps making them tradable so the market can correct for roughly the effort required, or a combination of both.
     
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    Even if i'm not forced to play this game doesn't mean i shouldn't. Anyways why should you add new locations/bosses? Just imagine maplestory 2006 compared to 2009... Besides this generation is fked up if you ask me, 10 years old kids using iphone, laptops, good computers etc.. Yeah i basically had a good childhood thank god i wasn't born in the 2000's... If you read through comments in youtube, people really started to quit and hate maplestory after 2009-2010. Golden era was 2005-2008. That's what nexon though too, keeping things the same is gonna ruin the game, so they started adding new things and basically screwed up everything when they saw people leave and leave.

    I don't even understand why people like gollux and krexel...

    In matter of fact, people nowadays get bored of their current technology, but they always want new ones example smart phones. But later they whine about why is everyone using smartphones and people lives are affected too much on new technology, less sports.

    What im telling you is that people would join this server more if it wasn't too 2009...
     
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    At least I took the time to clarify my statement in a reply. At least elucidate your point. Rather than simply stating that I'm missing it.
     
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    They hit a lot harder, and cast status effects at a much higher rate. Chaos HT may possibly be on par with Pink Bean, however I cant fully compare since one came out pre BB before Potential and stat bloat, and one came out much much later when stat bloat and potential had completely destroyed the game. Chaos Zak may be something that is a possible boss we'd be able to down on Royals as I believe many compared it to normal HT with slightly more status effects.

    The only difference between the bosses drop wise was the main items they dropped. The Helm was level 100 instead of 50, had +20 stats instead of +15 and 10% HP/MP, and the pendant i believe had same base stats as normal pendant but had w.atk and %hp/mp. These items would completely outclass everything we had in game currently.
     
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    Tough girl, should i be jelous :D?
     
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    You are an exhaustingly, aggravating, unpalatable person. I cant help but read your responses and picture myself rubbing my face up against some high grade sandpaper, with the amount of abrasion your responses contain.

    Im not sure why you always have to be arguing with people on here, we're just here to have fun. It would be real nice if you relaxed more and werent always looking to have a verbal disagreement with everyone.

    On topic

    I'm ok with most additions we make to the game, as long as we keep within the nostalgia. However, I'd say Gollux and Root Abyss arent favorable bosses for me. So i'd be ok with or without them.
     
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    @Benizakura When I first played maplestory, we didnt have the ability to jump down. Those hidden portals in maps like Henesys and kerning didnt have the outline that showed you where they were. We didn't have mini dungeons, leafre or 4th job. Yet who is happy that we have those things? Would you like to play a "nostalgic" server that doesnt even have 4th job or leafre? So, Why add new content? Why not? If you keep something the same for too long, people get bored. That's really all there is to it.

    What's so wrong about adding new content, anyway? It's more fun for people to do. Breaks up the monotony of the same cycle every day, at least for a while. We added in Temple of Time and Ulu for that exact reason. More content that extends across mid game and late game gives people more options.
     
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    I think we can all agree, that the major problems many of us have with current maple has to do with how P2W, how stat bloated the game became and Nexons decision to throw some stupid overly serious story into the game that never made any sense. The content itself, outside of a few outliers was still really good. Places like Kerning Square, Malaysia, Neo City, Mushroom Castle were all places that gave players alternates to train at while they leveled up. And all of these places even came out before Ulu which we have in game. None of these maps really break nostalgia for me. Id be perfectly fine with any of these area's being added. Mind you many of them would need XP and Spawn ratios changed so they didnt completely negate other area's of the game, but kept them in the same area as it would add more options.
     
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    I agree, but keep in mind that this thread in specific is focused on end-game. Whereas the maps you mentioned are not really end-game related. But I get your point [:D]
     
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    Actually maplestory was way more fun when there weren't 4th jobs, i remember the tiger era. And i started playing maplestory 2005, maplestory was alot more adventuring and more mysteriously fun when there wasn't the outline in hidden portals.... That's what nexon did to maplestory after adding new contents, new patches and the rest of the bullsh!t that ruined the maplestory.
     
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    I don't really remember when these came out, but the future Victoria Island might be a nice addition? I remember it being pre BB though I may be wrong. It had some pretty powerful minions and can serve as an alternative end-game location?

    I think you're being a little biased. Maplestory didn't stop being about adventure and mystery, you just knew what the game had to offer at that point. That's just the natural progression of playing through a game.

    Personally the only two gripes I have about maple are how ridiculously P2W it has become (Pam's Song or whatever it was is a great example, as is something like Platinum Scissors of Karma), and how most classes have become homogenized - that is to say that virtually all classes have a giant AoE effect, a good single target attack, a flash jump...classes weaknesses and strengths don't seem to be anywhere near as pronounced as they were in the earlier versions.
     
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    Omfg what did i just read... Kerning Square was the worst place ever made and mushroom castle was fun but it isn't the old maple we knew....

    What is this mapleMario where a giant pinguin kidnaps a mushroom princess and u gotta save her for some crappy weapon box equips and 100k meso?
     
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    Please stop suggesting things that were released after Big Bang in this thread.
    If you feel the need to do so, I suggest you to make a thread here

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    I didn't suggest anything o_O Can't you see my hate towards big bang patch here in the comments?
     

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