Feedback Thread: A New Way To Gain HP

Discussion in 'Accepted' started by Joong, May 5, 2021.

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Are you in favour of implementing a method for players to reach 9500 HP at level 175

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  1. EZFebreezy
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    all my characters are washed beyond that number, but that just seems silly. it punishes all unwashed characters >175 in terms of delaying their progress. there's no effective difference in terms of number of quests repeats for a 150 character to hit 9500 at 175 vs 10050 at 200 so why not let the characters above 175 take similar advantage?
     
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    Okay I understand where you are coming from with regards to Shao.

    Apart from what I mentioned about moving the npc to someplace else, if the Staff feels like this would not be possible, there is always the option to reward players with an "Orb" of some sort where you can communicate with Reuel no matter where that player is, where he is able to start/finish the hp quest without having to travel back to magatia.

    It could be rewarded to players who did the quest 50 times for example. This way it doesnt take the grind out of the hp quest and also gives players an incentive to keep doing it since they know "its only gonna get easier".

    However, the best option imo would be to move the npc to fm or a more accessible town like heneseys. Main reason people dread doing the quest is travelling there to start the quest and travelling back to finish the quest. Even with the fast pass it takes a toll considering the number of times we have to do it. Not to mention classes like archers who dont have flash jumps

    Just some thoughts. Obviously I havent thought about the cons yet because I like to think that my ideas are perfect kekw.
     
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    Hey joong,
    Could you possibly start a PM with me? Im working on an in depths analysis of „Hp washing is optional and future ways to encounter the topic“ and I’d like to show you my progress before fully releasing it.

    also What’s the benefit of including extra MP into the Threshold calculation for Reul‘s quest? It makes it hard to calculate stuff and „punishes“ ever extra MP as you basically need to convert it into HP to reach the threshold rather than being able to get that HP on top. It would be nice if all ways to gain HP go hand in hand and Make HP Washing a thing to do at 175+.
     
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    Honestly, not making everyone have the equal ability of doing the repeated quests from a point of 0 to threshold (~3500+) hp before being transfering to a infinite daily makes no sense. I really don't know whoever championed the current solution of having calculations of your extra MP and if you already washed somewhat or a lot, you can't do it, was thinking. If Joong had told us exactly what the new solution would be, I among others could have stopped him in his tracks before implementing such a thing in favor of a better solution. It's just silly and shows the lack of forethought on the Staff's side.
     
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    Feel free to PM me. Hopefully I answer your question below as well!

    My friend, you are giving me too much credit. The current system delivers 9500 HP by level 175, without the need to prepare your character in any extra way. You still need to wash out some naturally-occuring excess MP to get there, yes, but the choice to account for your MP was deliberately made through Staff discussion, as a way to ensure that the quest couldn't be used to bolster the traditional HP washing. It's a standalone system, living alongside the old, established one. You are forgetting that the goal of the quest, as originally outlined, is to give players a way to reach 9500 HP by level 175, not to give players 3500 HP.
     
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    I think the NPC should be in more select towns, as others have mentioned previously in this thread.

    If you won't make the 9500 HP at 175 a passive gain, you might as well make the quest more appealing to do.
     
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    Yes, thanks for clarifying! I will consider that for my further analysis. Id rather have it as a way to gain 3500 HP, but that’s your teams decision and I guess I can see your point there.

    Basically HP Questing on lvl 120 will be better than doing it later as you will have less natural exess MP.
    ~Will be adding values here later.~
    Therefore you can „spam“ the HP Quest more often till it turns daily. You could even consider unequipping Gear with INT to reduce MP gain:confused:

    I didn’t know I can simply pm you up until now:X
    My little project turned out a little more complex than initially planned. It will most likely take me a few days to finish and pm you.
     

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