I rather die because of my own mistakes, not because some douchebag was feeling bored. EDIT: Sorry, iPhone cable just broke. I disagree. I don't think that griefing is a part of our game. Griefing, which includes harassing, insulting and irritating others can actually get you banned if you get caught \ someone reporting you.
So your argument is; because it was allowed 10 years ago, it should be allowed now. Even though we are not WoW or Gms, we're a completely different kind of community. And that there's a major difference between official servers and smaller private server communities. So I find that though proces strange personally. I'm not saying we should ban all players who drop summoning bags on afk players.. but I do frown upon you encouraging them to do it.
I died and lost 10% on my bishop while afked. That's not funny. And I would like to point out that Gags said she personally has experienced it at least 3~4 times on that same day. Sure once in a while is fine but not 3/4 times in the same day. And this does not only happen to her, it happened to my friends as well. It's not funny to just step on someone's effort. And this! Without knowing this, it makes it even more not okay! If people were to not know that, they would easily lose 20% at that same time (which I'm certain that it does happens).
It becomes an issue in stage 5 where there are 6 portals, not 5. And "hard worked exp", you just admitted you were allowed to afk leech in LPQ and then you get pissed when someone takes it away? The server shouldn't cater to your every need, nor to anyone else's, but that's some pretty huge privileged demands. Don't wanna lose free exp? Buy charms. It's what they are there for. Mod Edit: Careful, now.
Really? well, when exactly did I said I was only in my Preist? I went on Gags when the event occurred, and I almost died there. Another thing, before I went afk I grinded for hours each day there, doing my parts. Exactly like I said. I don't usually slack in things like that, and plus I was asking for a permission. And yeah I have charms regardless of this issue and again I'm not planing to lose (waste) them because someone thinks it's funny. Kinda surprised to see a comment like this from you.
Always amusing to stir the pot. I'll address the topic in question instead. You want to remove/fix summoning bags to be spawned in maps you feel entitled to be able to afk without anyone disturbing you? Why, because it pisses you off? They already fixed it in the FM, a place where they were actually not supposed to work. Something I stood by. It would probably rustle me too if someone killed me with a summoning bag, but it's part of the game and I'd have to suck it up. I wouldn't want it to change because my feelings were hurt, but if it affects equal game play, or is a bug of sorts, then that is obviously different. I don't play on settling petty differences in my favour, but advocate equal game play and experience instead. Summoning bags are a part of that. And just to be clear, there are tons of things I dislike about how stuff works around here, but I suck up and accept them, instead of taking another, more whiny approach.
YEs it is me, scammer and boss summoner. On another server there is someone who, from here, decided to go there and take their shit attitude(will not be named) with them, so I pledged myself to using all 23 of my summon bags solely to kill him. So I killed him 23 times over a 30 day period. #1 Scum @ your service. oh this thread is against summoning RULE#1: NEVER afk in a map other than FM unless it is 100% dead and not in CH1. I like to use my summon bags for people who deserve to get killed, but in most cases people hunt other players that are AFK for pure sport. In your case, that guy did
"Guns don't kill people. People kill people." Summoning bags are not the problem here. People are. If you want to be that immature guy who goes around looking for people AFKing in spots and take away their hard-earned exp, by all means, go ahead. For now, we can't do anything. But the repetitiveness of it ruins everything. I remember a GM event being cancelled due to players using summoning sacks to kill others because they were either seduced or stunned and not able to do anything about it. Another case happened with a close friend of mine,@NightcoreFtw , who was streaming Royals on Twitch when a guy summoned a Jr. Balrog while he was grinding at teddies, not only did he kill his low-leveled archer, but his 14x Arch Mage too. I will admit that I too, have used summoning bags on @NightcoreFtw 's archer. I thought it would be fun, but no. I realized how annoying it can be and apologized to him. Thankfully, he accepted my apology. It didn't end here, the same person who summoned monster to kill him constantly stalked my friend and continued to spawn Jr. Balrogs on him. Okay okay, enough with the examples. But now, what can we do if people are deliberately hunting down certain/random people just to kill them? Some might say that low-leveled players can easily gain back their lost exp. But is that it? Do you not have a lasting impact on them that they can think negatively of all the community? High-leveled players, hard-earned exp and you have enough said. People have some tie to specific maps to which they like to AFK in. For me personally, the abandoned hut in Kerning Swamp. And now we can't do it without risking our exp? Blacklisting these people isn't going to do anything as they are still going to continue kill other players. Ban could be a solution to this problem, despite how ineffective it may be, unless you have some video recorder that's recording Royals 24/7 when you AFK. Lastly, what's left? Banning summoning bags altogether? Remember, "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." And to those who are simply "seeking revenge". There isn't a difference between you and the person you are seeking revenge against, no matter what they did.
Here's the thing for pple saying it's wrong. The situation gags brought up in the first place was her low lvl player lpqing n from the screenshot it looks like pple didn't mind it. There is not much Bad intent most of the time. There are a few rare instances that u guys said where someone goes up to a high lvl n spawns a summoning bag. But that's rare like I said, it's probably 1 out of every 1000 players who would spend their time to do that Theres pple like that no matter where u go so just suck it up n keep playing, if someone constantly follows u to spawn it more than once then it's a problem
Who are you to decide who deserves that or not?! If someone offended you, you have the fame system for it. And no don't even think of it as a sport, it's not. How inconsiderate of you to do things like that to other people. And let me you something: you're not cool. Again, you're not cool.
Please do not bring personal vendettas into threads like this one. Stay on topic, or I'll delete more posts.
Yes really, for me atleast. We had some kind of a friendship in the past and I never thought he would attack me like that. But w/o can't care about that too much. Here's what I think happend: Cpq got closed, so a lot of other people moved to lpq, and the sommuning bag is obtainable there. Therefore the increase number of summoning bag, and the increase number of people who are tempting to use it. Again, I've never said that it should be removed. The opposite of it actually, just look at the title. So here's what I think is the best middle ground: decrease the chances of getting it \ removing it from lpq. And it's your own problem if you don't want to talk about things that bother you, you can't really call people who do wanna talk about it whiners. If I'm not wrong the feed back section says "feedback is always welcome" I can't see it tho because I'm through my phone. Sorry about the repost, like I said I'm on my phone and I don't know how to edit here.
It's just for a bit of fun... Sure people can get pretty toxic here and there but in the end we're all trying to have a bit of fun. You lost about what 10 minutes of exp while someone had the time of their lives. Just let people have a bit of fun, it isn't like you lost the ability to play the game or even a big portion of time...
I'll argue both ways here, but first I'll just leave a small opinion for those who are saying that it isn't a serious matter because Gags/HealMyAss was low leveled, and so could have earned back the 10% exp in a small amount of time: what's important here isn't the level of the character and how fast they could earn back the exp lost, but the intent of the person who used the bag. I don't think that the fact that someone is low leveled and can recover easily from the event justifies you killing him/her on purpose; you don't justify punching/injuring a healthy 25 year old man randomly by saying that he's "old enough/strong enough to take it, and will recover quickly anyway" - it's still wrong. I also don't understand sometimes how people can have fun freely at the expense of others' pain; grow up and be a bit more responsible. On the other hand, I think the reason why summoning sacks even exist in the first place is partly for these kinds of instances (I mean, how many people actually use summoning bags as a constant training source). As many have pointed out, this is a game, and I don't think getting this heated over it is necessary. The FM has been purposely made a place where summoning bags cannot be used; you should realize that whether you like it or not, AFK'ing outside the FM will put you at a certain degree of risk. I myself would find it hard to complain if someone summoned a bag on me while I was AFK in Kerning; although annoyed, I would have had to accept that it was on part my fault, as I knew perfectly well that being summoned on was a possibility, and I chose to risk it. It might be wrong, but I can't complain about getting my laptop stolen if I left it out on a table in a coffee shop to go use the toilet. The people summoning are scumbags, but you're too naive yourself. In this sense I agree with @Manslut . Overall, I don't think that this topic has a definite right/wrong. People with different experiences and personalities will argue for different things. From my point of view, the more people post here, the more flaming and rage there will be, without necessarily reaching a conclusion.
If you read my post, I am in no way talking against you. I merely said summoning bags should not be tampered with, as they are fine as is. however, the guy who did that to you and your party had no reason to, which is indeed a dick move. but think about It, the rational thing to do is to blacklist his IGN immediately, and defame him if you can. otherwise do it another time, there is also a blacklist on the forums as well that you could bring it up to. I used my summoning bags as a personal payback for people who scam, hack, dupe and try to get others banned who are innocent while being huge douchebags. Otherwise it's for the NX, and for jokes between friends. My point here is this whole deal is blown up with misconceptions.
Well the way you introduced yourself made me think you're one of those jokes that are killing afk people. I thing it's kinda fighting fire with fire but that's not what argue so I don't mind. I will always welcome & appreciate comments like these. Thing is, I didn't even afk in LPQ. He tried to use summoning bag, it didn't work, I told him to sto, he used them the 2nd time and caught me when I was typing. It's not only that, my whole party just fell apart and I had to make a new one with the members who didn't log off because of his stupid action. Plus FM is not always a solution, if I for example wasn't afk, someone used a summoning bag and I got hit by a mob, I can't quick change to FM because I' ll have to wait a couple of seconds. And if I'm not fast enough, I'll 100% be dead. So we've got some issues with that.
The fm isn't always a solution, indeed. Me and a friend were playing omok in channel 7 and someone spawned a balrog on us.
Why is this even a discussion? Report the people who summon balrogs on people for harrassment, maybe if GMs are strict with this kind of thing they'll understand that it's not okay - problem solved.
