Event Happy Thanksgiving!

My personal opinion on this is that in every competition there will always be more losers than winners. It would be unfair to change the rule because of people who complain that they have no chance of winning because that's not true. Instead of complaining why don't you try to invite more members to YOUR guild and start baking more pies. The top guilds aren't winning simply because they have more people but because they actually log on every six hours to bake pies. We're only two days into the event and the third place guild only has 144 pies. Your argument is that smaller guilds can't compete? With just 40 members you can bake more than 144 pies in 2 days

 

TLDR : Stop complaining and do something about it.

Capcom has ~40members and theyre #1
Boobs may have more people but only 30-40 are active everyday.
I can't speak for Oblivion as i don't know much about them

 

I think that the competition should stay the way it is.

• For one, it's not about being the biggest guild. As Ein said in the above, CAPCOM consists of only 40 people and even amongst those 40 we are actually only about 25~30 people. We don't make mules to further the numbers, because our guild space is capped at 45. Almost everyone in this guild is at least third job. We are simply efficient in utilizing our alternate characters and time management of 6h.
• Secondly, as Ein also mentioned, we are not accepting randoms when they ask to join because of this competition. Our guild is just our family, and that's it. No more, and no less.
• Third, this event was and is continuing just the way it was supposed to be. It. Is. A. Competition. Is that not what the hype is about? The competitive aspect is personally building our guild bond, as I hope other guilds are experiencing as well.

I think changing the event would take away the purpose of the prizes. We worked hard to reach the number we are at. It is not our fault if there are more losers than winners.

This wouldn't have been such a big deal if it were one of the bigger guilds winning.

 

I think that members leaving guilds to go to a guild that might have a chance to win this event shows something about who the person is, and it's up to you how you treat that... maybe you think it's ruining small guilds, but really, if all it takes is an event chair for a player to leave your guild, the person leaving probably wasn't really that into your guild anyway, and they would've left at one point or another regardless... or at least, that's how I look at it.

Remember, some of the people who do the most cutthroat things turn out to be the ones who are most successful. CAPCOM is #1 and they have access to everything that every other guild on MapleRoyals has access to. Unless someone can prove they're abusing glitches to be in first place, it just means they're working harder for this chair than you are.

 

I guess whining is winning.. *sigh*

 

Did you really think this event through?
What if Queens was still around... They would probably have won easy by far. People would have complained but nothing would have been done. Now because guilds with GMs in them and guilds who are favored byGMs arent winning.
Nothing would have been done if Honour or Clarity was in the lead.
This is unfair because we tried hard to be #1. There has to be losers in a competition.

We in CAPCOM rejected all those who tried to join because those people are no true guildmembers and I'm sure alot of guilds would not like to have these type of members.

As stated we have access to the same thing other guilds.
I sense favourtism.... but sure you make more people happy this way in the end and only WE who tried are left as the sore losers here

 

It's a good idea, but what about the inactive members? There are people who may be too busy to go on Royals, but they are still a member of the guild.

 

@Katsuruka The show me ranks for guilds page of the grandma NPC incorrectly states that chairs will be received on oct 1st. I believe this should be
Dec 1st.

 

The rules are changed because people become ridiculous. The whole intent of this event was to be fun, get in the spirit of Thanksgiving, give something to tide the community over until Christmas. However, it quickly strayed away from that and became "let's do everything we can to beat the system and win the top prize." Maybe we shouldn't have had a prize at all and just made it a pure number thing.

 

Forgive me if I misinterpret your view on the matter but how is being competitive and strive to win confused with being ridiculous and "beating the system"? You're pretty much accusing CAPCOM of being cheaters, which is far from the case in what Boobs was doing with Islanders. In a prior post you even encouraged people to complete the task on alternate characters, and when a guild not necessarily recognized by the community as being respectable or whatever nonsense you're justifying it as, is topping the race, it's all of a sudden defeating the purpose of the event?

That was the whole purpose of the event in the first place, some real competition to be proud of that anyone could be a part of. Yes, it was unfair to smaller guilds or guilds with newer players, but you all knew that before you released it. Not even 2 days passed and people started whining about it being unfair, just because it didn't cater to them. Well, things aren't always fair, and a small guild like CAPCOM took advantage of that. Boobs and Oblivion accepted the race but everyone else quickly noticed it would be tough to keep up, so what do? Complain on the forums. This is the equivalence of a mixture of a Jump Quest Event and Betrayal Q&A, with the best ones placing on top, and if you suck, well suck it up and move on. I'm pretty sure bigger guilds like Honour, Clarity, Oblivion could have topped if they actually committed. Top10 is at 40 pies, and assuming you could hand in pies twice a day if you play a normal amount of time, that would result in 40/(3x2) = an average of 7 members to be active within a guild.

This event had the possibility of being great and fun, the way it was released. Now it's just incredibly mediocre.

 

I accept the decission made but there is no need to point us out as cheaters beating a system because we have played the server for a while owning more then 1 character. We could have expanded from 45 to 80 to have room for all our characters if it was that upsetting to join and leave on OUR OWN different characters

Yes because then we wouldnt have been screwed over wasting time and effort trying to win.
You really cant blame us for feeling that the event changed because the "correct" guilds were not winning. If Queens was still around as before all complaints would been tossed aside because they had better relationship to the staff then our guild CAPCOM. The only people who complained were staffmembers or people that are close friends with staffmembers.

 

I think it's safe to say this is getting *way* out of hand. It's a fun little event we decided to try and have for people, however -no- we didn't see all the possible circumstances before we made it. Some things are unpredictable. The way it's changed now, everyone has a chance at winning by simply working hard, regardless if they're a guild of 20 people or 100 people. There's still a top 10 list for bragging rights- and I really don't understand where you're coming from with everything being about staff favoritism. Just because you dont know who has or has not complained in private, because you didnt' see it public, doesnt mean it didn't happen.

And for what it's worth- yes I own Clarity. No, I was not the one heeding the decision. I've been out of town since the start of the event- I actually *just* got home. I've baked a total of 4 pies in the past 3 days because I've been busy with real life. My leadership of my guild has *nothing* to do with the decision as a whole to change the event to allow everyone to have a fair chance at obtaining the prize. It's not a contest about who has the most amount of people/alts. It's about working together with your guild members and having fun.

Also- re: Supervillian's GP being rolled back. One look at the forums for the past month would show that it wasn't just them that it happened to. It was happening to any guild that GPQ'd. It even happened to me when I was in Infinity- we just didn't bother to report it or ask for a refund because it didn't matter that much to us. It was a bug, and it's been fixed as far as I know. It wasn't anything personal against anybody.

As it is, I'm locking the thread because it's gone out of hand. I guess we've all learned a lesson when it comes to creating events that are supposed to be fun for players. Not everyone will be happy with anything we do- whether it's from the start, or a change we make to try and make something more fair. We do what we can, and we're only human. Take a step back and chill. It's a game, and it's a holiday event. No one is saying you're cheating. No one named names or called out your guild in specific. It's true that some people did take advantage of the way it works, despite that not being the *spirit* of the event. Next time we'll just need to make clearly defined rules and what not, so take it as a lesson learned.

 

Apologies to anyone that was confused or misinterpreted certain comments.

The event has been changed to accommodate all players that are willing to get a 500 pie minimum, giving everyone a chance rather than just a selected few. Just how collecting "x" amount of halloween candy entitles you to a halloween-esque prize, this just gives everyone a fair shot.
The top 10 list will stay up in-game to give bragging rights to the top 10 guilds.


Enjoy the event while it lasts!

 

I understood you not being thrilled with the decision until I read this. DO not DARE to claim staff favoritism. It is personally insulting as the staff works hard to keep things fair for everyone whether it be events, handling abuse reports, or handling bans. Personally, I don't even play enough to know who is in what guild and I can guarantee you I don't look at guild affiliations listed on the forum until an outrageous post such as this one is made.

If you really want to go this far, it had been privately reported to me that your guild in particular, CAPCOM was making tons of level 30 beginners just to bake pies, adding the character and then kicking from guild once the pie was baked. This is where I think the event has become ridiculous. To in part reply to Mansiut's post, I did encourage people to bake on their alternate characters, but legitimate alternate characters not ridiculous mules called ILOVEPIES which is a level 30 beginner (just an example, have no idea if that particular IGN is real but similar IGNs exist). This nitpicking and tearing apart of every little thing said by myself and the rest of the staff is what causes such headaches for everyone and why there are posts on the forum saying the staff need to not be as micromanaging in player interaction. By acting like this, you force us to write 20 page long rules like some actual real world contest with legal ramifications.

It's a game for God sake, everyone chill out. If we're going to keep having guild dramas like this, maybe it's just easier to disband all guilds and not have the guild system in the game. Maybe that would stop some of this ridiculousness, but I doubt it.