Hey Plenty, is MP washing suppsed to be OP for mages? Because when I put into MP, I gained 100, but then taking it out I lost 90 so there's no benefit to the added int mages have.
I haven't tried it myself, but if I were to MP Wash a mage to 19k or something, I'd do all the washing as a beginner then become a mage.
What do I do now? I have been putting MP since like level 75. I am a 124 Bowmaster with 10223MP and 4076HP. I have 236 dex, 20str and 4 luk. Can I only complete this by leveling each time, put 5 into hp, take 5 out mp until I have no more mp?
If you're a BM, then you don't need to be doing it on a per-level basis. BMs get ~18HP per APResetAP used, and ~18HP per LevelUpAP used. Either method will work for a BM. So just... Reset 1 DEX into HP. (To give you HP/MP pool an extra tick) Then... 1. Reset 1 MP into HP. 2. Repeat Step 1 as many times as you'd like. Then... Reset 1 MP into DEX. (Or HP into DEX if you have hit your Minimum MP.)
Thanks! But I'm being confused at the part of when I do part 1 as much as I want... Won't I be running out of MP not having enough left over to wash from dex?
You know, you could have been resetting those points from MP back into DEX this whole time haha. Unless you just don't have the AP Resets, you shouldn't be hoarding points in MP. Take MP -> DEX as soon as you can. There's no reason to have all those points in MP. And if you plan to continue to MP Wash. Just put your LevelUpAP into MP, then immediately put that MP back into DEX. You only pull out 12MP, no matter what your INT is. But if you're done with MP Washing, then just go ahead and put all your MP into HP. So... Step 1. RESET ALL THAT MP BACK INTO DEX!! Step 2. HP Wash (MP->HP until you hit your minimum MP, like I explained earlier) Step 3. Reset all your INT back into DEX
You'll be fine, I just hope you weren't training with 250 DEX :# That sounds terrible haha Feel free to get all that DEX back now xD
So, after many months of saving up NX and mesos I am finally able to start double washing my Corsair. I just wanted to make sure I'm doing this right before starting. At level 38 I have 180 base INT, and have been leveling up with +60 INT from equips from early levels. I have calculated that I need to MP wash for 52 levels to get the MP needed to get my desired HP, assuming that Pirates get similar MP gains compared to Thieves. Is it perfectly fine for me to save up AP from levels 38 to 70 (during the PQ phase where leveling is relatively easy) and use it to MP wash, and then take points out of MP and HP wash? Like, I don't need to wait for 3rd or 4th job to start this, right? I plan on finishing my washing at levels 100-120. Also, I would appreciate if someone could tell me if this is the correct process for double washing my Corsair: 1. Save up 52 levels of AP (52 x 5 = 260 total AP) 2. Add 260 AP into MP 3. Reset 259 points of MP and add them into DEX or STR 4. HP wash with future AP: - Add 1 AP into HP - Reset points from MP and place them into HP until reaching minimum MP Here is some math I did recently that helped me come up with my numbers: Goal HP is 14,400 Minimum HP for pirate = 22 x level + 380 At level 185: 4450 Additional HP needed: 9950 Minimum MP for pirate = 18 x level + 111 At level 185: 3341 HP Gain = 16 to 20 per point 622 washes needed to gain 9950 HP getting +16 per point MP Gain = pirate base (assume 12) + (BASE INT/10) per point MP Gained from level up INT = 2114 bonus MP from levels 1 to 120 (this value is the bonus MP I get from leveling up until level 120 with base INT and INT equips) MP Loss = 16 per point 7838 additional MP needed to satisfy HP wash requirement (622 x 16 - 2114) Approximately 52 levels of MP washing needed to satisfy additional MP requirement
It would seem that your prefer to calculate based upon minimums, so I'll convert my formulas from averages to minimums: A more accurate Natural HP Formula would be: 300*(#JobAdv-1) + 22*Level + 101 Which would mean that, at the very least, you will have 5071HP at lvl 185. A Natural MP Formula would be: 150*(#JobAdv-1) + 18*Level - 85 Meaning that you will have, at the very least, 3695MP at lvl 185. I think you calculated your Minimum MP, incorrectly. With the given formula: 18*Level + 111 Your minimum MP would be 3441. Meaning that at lvl 185, you will have 3695-3441 Extra Washable MP, at the VERY least. Therefore, 254MP. 254MP = 318HP, if washed. 318HP + 5071HP = 5389HP. Therefore, with 0 INT, you will be able to have 5389HP at lvl 185 by washing to your Minimum MP. Your goal is 14400, which means you will need to accumulate enough MP to gain another 14400-5389= 9011HP. In order to wash another 9011HP, you will need to accumulate an extra 7209MP. Btw. I believe you are under the impression that you need to use LevelUpAP in order to wash a Pirate. This is not the case. When you use a LevelUpAP, as a pirate, to add to your HP, you will receieve between 16-20HP. When you use an APResetAP, you will gain 20HP every single time. Therefore, it is very advantageous to just use APResetAP for a Pirate. This is different from a Thief. And taking away from MP, as a Pirate, costs 16MP. Therefore, it will take 451 Washes to gain 9011HP. And 451 washes costs 7209MP. Note: The MP/HP ration for a Pirate is 0.8. Now, it seems you are unaware of how MP Washing works for Pirates. They're a bit unique. Taking MP from the MP stat, takes away 16MP. And adding a point into the MP stat, gives 10-12MP. this means that, on average, you will lose 5MP for every MP Wash. And in the worst case scenario, which it seems you like to plan for, you lose 6MP for every MP Wash. That is how I will calculate it. (Therefore, you would need a base of 60 Raw INT just to get 0MP from MP Washing). All these calculations depend upon when you started wearing your INT Equips, but I'll just calculate it as if you had 60 INT from Equips since lvl 30. Hopefully, that should even out to be near accurate. 155*6= 930MP. So your INT Equips will net you about 930MP extra. 7209-930= 6279. You have 6279MP to go. I'm going to assume you added to INT from lvl 1. (I'm going to ignore the slight loss that is involved in getting 25 DEX for your first job advancement). If this is the case, your 180 INT should net you a calculated MP as follows: 18*184 = 3312 18*18= 324 (This is the amount that you didn't gain while adding to INT). 3312-324= 2988 (This is accounting for the amount you didn't gain while adding to INT). 6279-2988= 3291MP left to gain. Your 180 Raw INT will net you 12MP per MP Wash (Minimum). (Remember... MP Washing will net you a -6MP. Therefore, 180 INT only gives you +12MP) This equals 275 MP Washes. You will need 467 HP Washes, total. (If we're talking extreme minimums). And then you will need to remove 176 INT at the end. This all equals 918 AP Resets. Now, this is all assuming extreme minimums. I can pump out some equations based upon averages, if you'd like. As far as the whole process goes, the only part that depends upon levels is MP Washing. Since you'll need to MP Wash 275 times, that will take about 55 levels. But you can do these 55 levels at any point before lvl 185. Pirate HP Washing doesn't require any LevelUps. You can do all 467 HP Washes during a single level. You can do them once you hit 185, if you'd like. If you plan to finish your Washing process by lvl 100-120, I'm going to need to deduct about 75 levels from my above calcuations. That's 240 INT for 75 levels, or 1800MP, which would be another 150MP Washes, which means you would need 85 levels, total, for MP Washing :/ So you would have to start immediately. And believe it or not, your entire cost for this whole thing would actually go down if you had 280 Raw INT. MP Washing cost works like a bell curve, and although it would take another 100 Resets to reset out the INT at the end of the whole process, it would save about 185 MP Washes. That's assuming you'd have all that INT until lvl 185. If you're ripping it out at lvl 110, then 100 extra INT would save you 220 MP Washes!
