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    from my vendor history you should also be able to see numerous sales of high wa clean cravens, steel ores, clean pirate top and bottoms, clean bowman overalls, high wa clean nisrocks. a few perf clean spartas and such, these are the common drops of ulu leech. i dont know if there is a log for items destroyed by scrolling but u will find my sad scrolled cravens in that list... please tim sir i eagerly await ur response or questions. its been almost 60 hours since ban was issued and all i have gotten is "how u get this" and "how u make this" even though i feel like i already explained. im very willing and ready to provide all the assistance. please take a look at my trade/vendor/mapowner logs and just take information from them and ask me about them if you have any questions sir
     
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    please feel free to post my time online, map owner logs, trade transactions, vendor sales
     
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    i didnt take ss of the more ridiculous leech transaction, which was 2 whitescrolls. that chalkboard is the one i was using the buy APRs. 16m ea.. my other screenshots are for leecher dc. i dont think those would help?

    this rich and special boi in my ss alone bought 3 or 4 whitescrolls worth of petris from me. please note that this is split leech, which means the partner is paying me another 525m. if i remember correctly this 7 hour leech session was right after i just completed a 4 hour session.. this is when i still sold petris for 75m split per hour. this is 1.65B in cash made alone, excluding npc and drops. please remember i still have a vendor selling items for me while selling leech. 2b average a day is not a lie.

    this is one of the days of my week+ long petris grind that i did back then...

    right on the day that i got banned, i was asked to help leech a friend's characters. so i went to help him lvl at petris*, sold him 2 hours leech i think. before that 2 hour session ended, i was asked to help leech another friend's characters. and i leeched him for 7.5 hours after i completed the 2 hour session. he paid for split leech at petris with a whitescroll and combined with mesos that he still had leftover from a previous leech session i believe, due to the partner leaving halfway due to server lag.. i held 9 hour 40 minute mapowner at petris that very day, at the very least, before i left, according to my memory. please verify. (this was supposed to be one of the days i was gonna take a break from leech and watch monsterhunterworld streams while farming voodoos with ifrit..)

    I would like to know what other suspicions there are about how my money is made so i can clear them up to the best of my ability. of course i hope my logs are being verified as well.
     
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    Serving 4th day of ban.
    Reason Banned: Suspicion of RWT/Vote Abuse due to owning assets after joining for 2 months
    "Evidence" that was found worthy of banning I.P. address: Owning 1000 AP Resets

    This is a server that has not fixed HP Washing. Ap Resets are required for Hp Washing. 1000 AP Resets do not even come CLOSE, for one non-warrior character for 30K HP.

    First Day of Ban: Okay. I guess suspicion of my assets is reasonable since i've only joined for 2 months so far. They are probably looking through my logs the moment they found it suspicious, right? Yeah, of course they probably are. I will just answer their questions and provide as much information as i can to help.

    Second Day of Ban: I guess i might have more trades and playtime than the average player in the 2 months i've played? There must be numerous logs to look through maybe they need more time. I'll just answer their questions and provide any info i can think of to help them.

    New "Evidence" found that was worthy(?) of banning I.P. address: Owning 64B in assets

    Third Day of Ban: Input from GMs/Admins amount to "how you get this" and "how you make this". Unsure if they are actually checking. I have provided whatever I could, and the logs for referrence are all at their end. This is getting ridiculous? Confirmed case of harrassment is a 3 day ban, but what is this? I'll just continue to provide more assistance i guess?

    Fourth Day of Ban: ????

    GMs/Admins, all of my logs are on your end. I have provided whatever I could, much MORE than other ban appeals i have witnessed in the months i've been here. Hours played, Map-owner logs to support my claims, trade logs to support my claims, voting history, vendor sales history. It's all at your end. You asked for my patience and i am still trying my best to patiently wait. If this was the first two days i would feel that it'd be reasonable, but this is the Fourth.

    Edit1: noted, luna
     
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    No more bumping your thread, if you have anything to add , edit ur last post and add it there. This should be the last post before any reply from staffs side.
     
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    around what date did you start selling leech? we find it difficult to believe you spend every minute you were in game selling leech for the top prices to earn up to 64B while at the same time getting quests done for zakum and horntail and getting those rewards too, and farming heartstoppers and buying AP resets so we're trying to get a better idea of that. just explaining what happened in one day like you did doesnt quite give us the scope of your career in mapleroyals so far
     
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    tim if you are saying u find it difficult to believe i have been selling leech and u have been looking at my logs, that just tells me that the logs that your server is saving is not detailed enough.

    number of mobs killed by Enward/DixyNormous
    number of X type of mobs killed by Enward/DixyNormous
    MapOwner duration held by Enward/DixyNormous
    Character Levels of players who were in party with Enward/DixyNormous between the timeframe of the leech transaction and after the paid leech time.

    these are solid evidence of leech being sold. next, if u want evidence in realtime, come buy 10 hour leech service from me, Tim. this is not me bragging, this is fact: selling leech DO NOT tire me out. the thing that tires me is the NUMBER OF HOURS AWAKE. i have spent years in a game called runescape/Old School Runescape and have been associated with players aiming for the highscores of that game. 12 to 16, or even 18 to 20 hours of grinding PER DAY is the norm. that is why i can effortlessly pump out 10 hours, i am used to it. i have grinded alongside said players and the ign Yibby on Oldschool Runescape highscores was my ironman alone, which i have not played since many months of even more than a year ago.

    For the people whom i have serviced for long hours, feel free to contact me like the person in the screenshot above. I appreciate all the support i am getting and am very grateful and thankful for it. Fewer & SnowBlind still has leech money with me that has not been serviced. 203m and 170m respectively.

    like i said Tim, my evidence are mostly on your end. The fact that i am still held banned, i find ridiculous. i can understand me falling under suspicion, and i wear it as a mark of glory.

    i honestly cannot remember the date i started selling leech. i only remember grinding to 120 at ulu1, and then grinding there some more trying to get dmg for ulu2, which i regret because i needed to self leech a hs mule and my lvls only made me consume more mp to perform low lvl leech for my mule. i grinded a self-leeched hs mule without holy symbol, as a lvl 125+ archmage in 3 days, then i began selling leech i think..

    this memory is very vague, but i remember people declaring their surprise to me for reaching lvl 140+ in like 2 weeks i believe. getting lvls as an archmage with blizzard was a breeze. lvls from 120+ to 140+ were gained solely from selling leech if i recall correctly

    the prices i have given are inclusive of mesos gained by npcing drops. it is by no means "top prices". the only leech that i sell that looks to be more expensive than normal is ulu1. keep in mind that drops that sell for 100m+ are not rare from ulu, they are uncommon at best. drops that sell for 20m to 40m are extremely common. please refer to my vendor sales logs.

    if you are familiar with leech, ulu1 does not have consistent business, more so when i advance people to ulu2 in an hour at ulu1. ulu1 leech accounts for little of my leech volume. most of my leech are done in ulu2/petris.

    tim you have to understand i have also been doing a little bit of buying and selling to make mesos, like most other maplers. my assets do not solely come from leech, but they mostly do. the time i have been online in ur server is clearly displayed in the logs. i am extremely seldom, afk. i enjoy mobbing with my mages and still do, as proof of that i have 2 mages and ZERO attackers even after 2 months and having enough funds to start one whenever i wanted. the funds accumulated are merely a by product of me enjoying playing a mage. the attacker that is planned is merely a side project that was picked up on a whim since i had or will have the funds anyway. also because the sense of nostalgia assasin grew within me as i thought about said side project.

    Additional info: i might have forgotten to mention i also sold low lvl leech. i made a bishop because i wanted to widen the variety of leeches i could sell, to play at more leeching grounds. i have made some money from selling low lvl leech before i lvled my bs to 136. i was paid up to 100m per hour solo for low lvl leech. as i mentioned i have serviced people from as low as early 40s and bringing their characters all the way to high 130s. they bought leech from me and paid generously in return for satisfactory xp rates. 100m per hour from low lvl leech is excluding drops, leech money alone. i have also made a sum of mesos from maps such as sagecats(leathers, godly maple bow/xbow/spears, 200k per npc drops), platoon chronos(60% glove for attack, i sold more than 1 stack of this i think for 1.3m ea), master chronos(60% helm for dex, i sold a stack or more of this for 4m+ or 5m ea dont remember) please refer to vendor sales history.

    while i was lvling up my ice lightning, i was at forest of golem for a significant time. i grinded my first B coin at Forest of Golems, by npcing drops and selling stacks of 60% gfa for 1m+ ea. trails of evidence of this should be apparent if u look at the high stat godlies i have on my inventory mules. there are numerous FoG drops, lv60 warrior top/bottoms etc.. i was a complete noob, and was attracted to the drops of FoG hence i stayed there to lvl92 on my ice lightning. i did not know of the existence of ulu then.

    for zak and horntail preqs, i just found them easy. i just bought the gold zombie tooths and followed a video guide for the pq part of zak preq. then i took quite a few hours to learn and complete the zak jq. 2nd time on zak jq didnt take long. as for horntail preqs, i just bought htpq vip service from an associate for 100m each, then i proceeded to look for manon and asking for assistance to kill said manons. the drops were easy to farm as a mage with blizzard. i bought zak helm vip services for 120m and htp vip services for 1B. easily survived the bosses as a magic with magic guard. i died in ht service coz im a complete noob but i was ressed. (tyvm to the people who sold me htp vip <3) i dont understand how hard these are in the eyes of others, but i just paid a price and i was serviced well without a hitch.

    the only experience i have in royals is playing as a mage. i had a bcoin by grinding to only early 90s so i dont understand how much value a bcoin is for a non mage main. i avoided pq because i wanted mesos and pq generally only gave raw xp.. then i just sold leech and ended up here. is 64b really that much money in a server that is this old? if i religiously sold leech i'd have made way more than 64b. please keep in mind im a pretty new player with a background of long hour grinding games. i dont think its that hard to sell this quantity of leech, espcially when i am still enjoying the process of it.
     
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    tyvm for the support. i dont think this counts as solid evidence but i think word of mouth for the mark ive left in mapleroyals should help support this thread
     
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    <3 that was only one of the characters of this man that i have serviced to bossing levels
     
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    i believe jesusheal's ign is JesusOG, for verification purposes

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    i also made mesos from nx by gaching... i only bought a few tradeable nx pieces with my nx, which i regret because i would prefer to use them to gach now. i dont think i have ever bought APRs with nx, my nx is mostly spent on gach tickets. my gach winnings have been and were being sold for mesos. please verify from nx expenditure log and gacha wins logs, ty admin

    Edit1 8/22/18 3:40 P.M. +8 GMT: i was just told by a trusted friend that posting pictures and opening new info is considered bumping the thread. i will refrain from doing that now. my apologies i am new to forums ettiquette. i will add the pictures/info by edits from now on

    Edit2 8/23/18 9:57 A.M. +8 GMT:
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    tyvm for the support guys!

    Edit3 8/23/18 10:57 A.M. +8 GMT:
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    <33 MOTO :D
     
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    As mentioned before please help us clear your suspicion by providing the estimated date you started selling leech for these long hours. and what your average meso gain per hour would be on those hours.
    We dont keep logs of:
    - your mapownerships
    - amount of mobs killed by a character
    - levels of characters you partied up with.
    proposing to keep track of this sounds ludicrous to me as tracking this data would require a large amount of resources for little to no purpose.
    We don't need to see testimonies of people you may have leeched as we dont question that you have sold leech before, we just want it to check out with the amount of wealth you obtained in a short period of time.

    What I do want to check out is your log in time compared to the amount of leech you claim to have sold.
     
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    i have played mapleroyals consistently, daily, from my join-date to ban-date. even on days where i had to attend to something else(VERY seldom), i will login to royals once i am back. my sleep schedule isn't stable nor fixed, but currently, i wake up in the morning at around 8 A.M., and log out at around 1 A.M. (this is an estimate) my sleep time is pretty consistent as a fellow human, so i estimate 15 hours to be my average daily play time on royals. i have left my account online overnight to use the cheapo fm vendor for a few nights at best, as i got annoyed at the noise my computer makes in the dead silence of the night, and also the screen that tells me i have disconnected and have left my computer on for no reason. so, lets assume i have played 14 hours a day, this is excluding the fm store and the one or twice that i had to attend to other matters for about 3 to 4 hours each, i will have from my join date of jun 8, to ban date of aug 18, a log in time of roughly 70 days x 14 hours = 980 hours. (i do not believe these hours qualify as a "short time" as you have mentioned, admin)



    i probably began selling leech 10 days into royals. shitty leech which was rarely bought. i took 3 days to lvl a hsmule. so i assume about 2 weeks before becoming a fully fledged leecher. 980 hours - ( 14 days x 14 hours ) = 784 hours.

    as u can see i have no attackers, only 2 leech characters. i have nothing to do except leech pretty much, and the reason for keeping my characters that way is because i still enjoy selling leech. if i assume 80% of my play time is selling leech that is 0.8 x 784 hours = 627.2 hours selling leech

    if i assume 20% of those leech time is NOT leech uptime, but leech DOWNTIME (short breaks from selling long hours, timer paused to npc drops etc), 0.8 x 627.2 hours = 501.76 hours of leech sold

    the leech i sell reap me a profit from 100m per hour from low lvl leech to 180m per hour from petris, im just going to average it at 140m per hour. (i am excluding ulu1 because the max profit from my rates is rare, few and far between) The estimated money i would have made is 501.76 hours x 140M = 70 246.4M (70.2465 B)

    This is excluding the vendoring of drops like ores (steel from ulu2), perf clean craven/nisrocks, high stat/wa godly drops, scrolls, candles, sunshine, gach winnings.

    this is just an estimate according to my play time. i have lost some money to scrolling attempts etc. tim please understand i am the one being put under suspicion, i also understand that many of my info provided is not helpful in processing the ban appeal. they serve a different purpose, such as letting the readers know that i am not a random new players who probably got my assets through unfair means. it is self defense in this public ban appeal.

    this is the maths and it matches up with my assets easily. stop looking at my join date and please look at my hours instead

    Edit1 8/23/2018 4:58 P.M.: i also spent a few days buying leech to get my bishop to 120. used zombie teeth to 25 then straight into teddies leech. did LPQ for broken glasses, come out at lv5x, grinded zombies then bought leech all the way to 120. forgot what lvl i started buying leech, i think it was windraiders at lv65, but it only took like 2 days to 120. bought solo leech mostly until petris, then it was split till 120.

    Edit2 8/24/2018 1:08 A.M.: on 7/04/2018 or so i bought 29 int doroness robes, 23 tma dark noel and 19 tma purple gaia cape from Jeow/JordanHS for approximately 2B. i used money that i have mostly made from leech to complete this trade transaction. please verify, Tim. this should at least mark that i have already begun selling leech by said date. these gears are part of my quest to one hit petris. i have already begun selling leech before this deal was struck.

    So, if i take into account the few days i spent lvling and buying leech on my bishop, lets say 3 days (42 hours playtime), i have 70 246.4M - ( 3 x 0.8 x 0.8 x 14 x 140M ) = 66 483.2M (66.4832B)

    if i take into account money spent buying leech, idk how much it is its kinda late so lets just say i spent 2B buying leech, resulting in 64.4832B

    Now, lets take into account trade tax, 0.97 x 64 483.2M = 62 548.7M

    Again, this is excluding the vendoring of drops like ores (steel from ulu2), perf clean craven/nisrocks, high stat/wa godly drops, scrolls, candles, sunshine, gach winnings.

    the numbers show that it is more than possible for me to achieve ONLY 64B in assets.
     
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    Can i just point out something here, is this all assuming that you achieved 1hit petri in 2/3 weeks time? and that you have a constant flow of leech buyers everyday for 56 days?
     
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    i sold mostly ulu2 and petris. petris is 170m to 185m per hour including npc. i have brought it down to 140m average to account for the sales of low lvl leech and ulu2. ulu2 comes up to 120m to 130m per hour including npc.

    when i sold ulu2 there were times where there were no buyers. but that is rare, because the people who bought leech for me usually ended up just buying till they were 105 or higher in one sitting. i have accounted for time where nobody bought leech from me, from my 80% of total playtime calculated. same thing with petris. as u can see my last few days before ban, i only wanted to farm voodoos and watch shows, but i was pmed to service friends and associates, and have clocked easily 8 hours of leech per day on those days. the rest of my online time were then my free time.

    right now, without smegaing i have a consistent rate of business from pms alone. as u can see from my smegas i seldom need to smega my petris services.

    as for the achieving of 1 hit petris, it really wasnt much and only needed like 5b of funding. i had already accumulated almost 10b from a week of ulu2 alone. i remember helping iFlaw purchase his tt30 since i had free cash on me that wasnt being used yet. he had since returned the loan. i could have proceeded to petris any time i wanted, but stayed and sold ulu2/low to mid lvl leech for awhile beacuse i still enjoyed them. when i started getting bored i went to petris. most of the income of leech came from petris im sure, so 140m per hour is probably an under estimate

    currently, the way i sell leech is not short hours from mutiple buyers each. the pms i get are for lvling from 85 to 135+. that is 50 levels. from 1 booking alone i am booked for 2 days at least
     
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    i would like to be updated on admin's investigations of my play time and am eager to answer any queries derived from my logged play time. this is 10th day of ban for suspicion and i have answered admin's questions to the best of my ability days ago
     
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    you already inboxed me about this inquiry and I updated you what I was working on :confused:
     
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    worried you might have forgotten about my appeal since there was no further questions, so i bumped my appeal. im still ready to assist so please do ask me anything u need
     
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    There is no point to bump your appeal, Tim will reply when he is ready, all you are doing is bumping your thread down in priority since we go from oldest appeals to newest.
     

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