Closed i think i got banned

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    i would love for my appeal to be given more priority but i dont see or feel the difference after 2 weeks of being banned for suspicion. i cannot find an instance in this thread where i was asked about something derived from my account logs other than join date, 1k aprs which i publically smegaed, and my list of assets that i provided manually. i dont feel any assurance that my appeal is being handled at all, that my logs are actually being checked, is all.
     
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    I had a look into your chat and login history to see if your claims check out.
    We checked your in-game hours and on many days you dont meet the 14 hour mark (or even 80% of that) that you claimed to be selling leech on daily.
    Besides that all your in game chat history does not quite match the numbers you claimed on your profit per hour for leeching.
    • On 2018-06-21 you start your leech career and claim to be charging 20M an hour for guildies and 35-40M an hour for others for low level leech. The additional gains from low lvl leech NPCing and scrolls arent as high as making the total 100M an hour that you used on your calculation.
    • On 2018-06-23 you're charging someone 25M per hour and you're providing 30 minutes for free to learn the map as well. Later that day you're charging 30M
    • On 2018-06-24 you're charging 65M an hour solo leech for ULU2 leech, with drops that gets up to about 100M an hour according to yourself. You continuously charge people 65m an hour solo leech at ULU2 from here on out.
    • On 2018-06-25 you claim to have made your first max meso amount, forcing you to buy billion coins
    • On 2018-06-27 you claim to be making 1B a day continuously, you have 5B coins at this stage
    • On 2018-06-28 you start charging people 35M per person for duo leech which adds up to 105M an hour in earnings
    • On 2018-06-28 you start charging 80M/h for one hour, 70M/h for two hours and 65M/h for three hours, same prices for split leech which would make your earnings roughly 110M an hour
    • On 2018-06-28 you claim to be 'so tired' after a 6 hour leech session
    • On 2018-06-29 you achieve your 10B milestone
    • On 2018-07-10 you're still charging people 40M ea for split leech
    • On 2018-07-13 you start selling split leech at petri for 160M (80m per person) which totals to about 180M/h earnings
    • On 2018-07-28 you claim to be doing 7-11 hour leech sessions, you're also selling split at 75M each at this point making earnings 170M/h
    • On 2018-08-03 you say you do at least but usually 7 hours of leech daily at petri but this particular day you only did 4
    • On 2018-08-17 you claim you're used to 10 hours of leeching

    If we were to recalculate with these numbers ( lower initial earnings for cheap low level leech and lower income for petri leech with less daily hours which is seemingly between 7 and 10 according to yourself) we're not quite getting to the 64B mark here. Some of the investments you did were also high costs like maple warrior 20 books, genesis books, horntail pendant/ zakum / leech buying services.

    This still leaves many billions worth of value uncovered. We're also wondering how you managed to get so many AP resets by only having a few moments of contact with some sellers that had between around 10 and 70 most of the time.

    on 2018-06-19 you're suddenly selling genesis 20 for 850M while you havent even job advanced your main character to 4th job yet, how did you get this book?
     
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    tyvm tim i love this :D thanks for the hardwork!

    i bought a few gen20s when they were selling for cheap (when i had free cash on hand), i think i bought them for 700m to 800m and tried to resell. back then i hadnt realized that there was a tax on trading and that i didnt make as much profit as i think i did. when i realized i stopped buying gen20s to sell other than to use for dixy. if i look at the dates you provided, i believe i grinded 1B before i reached lvl 94 from selling npc drops from FoG. im a ice lightning mage and i two hit the mobs there, resulting in rapidly filling inventories and stacks of glove for attack scrolls/10% scrolls that i vendored for millions. i grinded in money maps like ratz (maple lamas, steel ores, leathers), master chronos (60% helm dex), zombies (tooth) while training and these help to add to my 1B by level 94

    10 and 70 aprs is alot because most people only sold me in single digits. i was using chalkboard in fm probably. or when some1 smegaed i pmed them i buy all and then we met up. a few of them didnt actually have aprs when they tried to sell aprs, they had nx ready. when i told them i will buy as much as they are willing to spend on aprs then they went into cash shop to buy aprs to sell me

    thank you again tim. progress! :D when i first started leeching i wasnt as effecient as i am now so the numbers arnt consistent. leech patterns improve over time and only after that do i get the numbers i get now. tim i think you might have missed out the drops i vendored for mesos, the nx fm npc store. also the mesos made from npcing drops seem to have been missed out. i also made 160mish from a gen20 zak drop split

    tim if you could post your current calculation for my earnings i might be able to correct it and add on to it. this 64b in assets is my total, which means we are probably going to have to clear it up trade log by trade log if we want to verify everything. if you can post all my trade logs i will probably be able to fill in what they were for, then we just need to get those verified (and add in mesos from npcing drops, and mesos from stuff sold by fm nx store)
     
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    if posting my trade logs is too long for the thread u can just email me the notepad. feel free to post the notepad file on this thread.

    we can also start off by posting my total time online in mapleroyals. zero feedback on vote history so i assume that is already cleared up and its only suspicion for rwt. im glad you looked through my chatlogs, but that much is not even enough to qualify as sufficient efforts to look for evidence of rwt as i assume rwters wouldnt chat about it in game, and evidence is more likely to be found in trade logs.

    while you looked through my trade logs, which i assume you did but i may be wrong, i hope u noticed all cs/ws were bought with mesos. please name the trades that you are uncertain or suspicious of. ill be waiting.

    my total time and vendor sales will definitely reflect my assets. please provide those.

    9/4/18, 17th day ban :)
     
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    I understand you would like us to provide everything for you however this is your ban appeal where you will have to explain on why you think you've been unfairly banned.
    so far:
    - you're banned for suspicious activity, possibly real world trade as we deem earning 64B in a short time in your circumstances (starting from lvl 1) suspicious which on top of that you have many AP resets which are a common item to be real world traded in large amounts
    - the explanation you wrote and the amounts of mesos you used for your calculations of leech selling that you provided did not end up matching the play time and your chat logs

    we don't publish complete logs because it could give people with ill intentions more opportunities to avoid being detected if they study the way we gather information.
     
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    i gave you estimates. i am a player, not a machine that logs every detail i do. if that is expected of a player, instead of the server, then neither me nor many people who play on your server can live up to those expectations. i explained myself and i am waiting for your questions. you have to find the logs you find suspicious, and ask me about it, not skim through my chat logs only and nitpick going "hey see, your estimate isn't 100% accurate". furthermore you failed to provide your calculations and questions and only nitpicked with my chatlogs. this calls me to question if the one handling my appeal actually cares about players being wrongly accused. i understand we are but 3 players, but it is still ugly to see. it is exactly why you should be providing logs you are suspicious of, and asking about it, if you are unable to provide the full logs. i dislike having to tell you what to do as i am not the admin of your server so i dont understand what the server capabilities are.

    "I understand you would like us to provide everything for you however this is your ban appeal where you will have to explain on why you think you've been unfairly banned."

    yes i would like you to provide everything if you are capable of it. i have explained why and have waited for almost 20 full days for proper handling of this case, in which i have only witnessed 1 satisfactory process which was the proof that you looked through my chat logs, Tim. still, i thank you for doing that. what i would like next is for what has been done with my chat logs to be done with my trade logs. what are the suspicious trades etc, i will be ready to answer your questions.
     
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    actually, i changed my mind. watching my appeal get processed is like watching kitchen nightmares without gordon ramsey in it, fuckin hell. i just wanted to get unbanned so i can give away my assets to friends and associates before requestin self perm ban but god damn, i cant stand this feeling of disgust welling up within me..

    anyway, i had an amazing 2 months in royals, no thanks to the laggy server and boss dcs but to the community. i hope royals will improve in many aspects for the community's sake. hope you readers enjoyed the show i put up for you. my bros and i have long since found a more enjoyable server for us to play on if we ever want to play maplestory, and lastly to those who think i rwt and want so much to let me know what you think, google nonentity.

    banning for suspicion is cool and all, but id give that ban 5 days tops and it should have been cleared up. wtf royals. more than 5 years. MORE THAN HALF A DECADE. ITS STILL FUKIN RAW.
     
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    Good luck! :)
     

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