Let's discuss: do you think this deserves an unban?

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  1. maggles
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    Hurtful? Yes. Racist? No.

    Afaik the term was used to insult, but similar to calling someone an idiot..
    Is it the right to do? No. Good behaviour? No. But I can see why the language was used considering the conflict between the two users. Where's the context to shows it was racist and not plainly just an insult?
     
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    Wrong, you dont get to decide whats racist and whats not.
     
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    I'm from the UK and I'm white. If someone called me a monkey, they'd be calling me an idiot.

    So what is racist about comparing a white dude to a monkey?
     
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    Lol okay. So explain it to me? How is the word 'monkey' racist.

    The word is clearly not inherently racist. I concede, it possibly could be depending on the context in which it is used and who it is directed towards, however other uses for the word exists and it is also used to refer to someone as an idiot. Next we will be banning for harmful expressions like cheeky monkey..
     
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    ? ok... we are talking about someone else, not about you.
     
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    Nice dodge, so what is racist about calling a white guy a monkey?

    Or is the word "Monkey" racist?
     
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    2020: hope you like trauma! >:D

    Me: It's ok I'll escape to my childhood and play Royals :D

    2020: Yea fuck that my guy, you can't escape me. ;)
     
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    Sigh... ok

    Sorry had trouble getting this online

    This is my skin color,

    1607881923899_70.jpg

    Without knowing my race or country. Would you say calling me a monkey to be just hurtful or racist?
     
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    haha piss off bigot, i not giving you a time of day
     
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    A word can be racist in some cultures and not in others, and a few people have confirmed that 'monkey' is indeed racist in their culture. However, Sharon being uneducated on this the first time is understandable, but should have still followed up with an apology and an immediate stop to referring to Raony as a 'monkey'. I agree that Sharon was in the wrong here, and I would support Raony making a separate report if he wishes to as it is harassment/hate speech. Despite this, I do not think that this disqualifies Sharon from reporting a separate incident of harassment, and does not justify the overturning of Raony's ban - which is the main point of this thread.
     
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    As soon as I named my monkey i sent Tim as a meme(I’m dumb and it aint funny i know) and I changed it immediately. People with inappropriate pet names been asked to change and got unbanned and so did I. It couldn’t even offend him cause he didn’t see it lol. Again, it wasn’t in a racist manner, and I’m deeply apologize if anyone find it racist(as I understand now about certain people who take monkey as “n word” and not as dumb).
     
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    Sorry, don't completely understand what you're trying to get at here.
    Hypothetically, if I wasn't aware of your race or country of origin and if I had called you a monkey -- this would be a hurtful gesture, correct. But hurtful due to the fact I voiced my opinion of you as an idiot, numbskull, fool, halfwit, nincompoop or a dunce. It has nothing to do with race, but instead would probably be based off something you said/did.
     
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    A bigot is not a racist, they are not interchangeable terms. And glad I hope you take it personally that I think your plee for humanity is disingenuous and just trying to distract from a bigger issue.

    Here's the thing, yeah you know what, I could talk to all of Brazil and get different answers but there is no thinktank, database, or documented proof that Monkey is nationalist insult. If it was, then African **Americans** wouldn't be insulted by it. I call people who are dumb on the internet monkeys, I don't know their ethnicity, this individual has posted selfies reflecting it, therefore cannot be bigoted or racist.

    Pull your head out of your ass.
     
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    No no no no, im not trying to trick you, ok you need more info,

    Im of the malay race which is the majority race of my country malaysia, I have some race previlage compared to other races of this country.

    If some one where to call me a Monkey, would it be racist or just hurtful?
     
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    you can say whatever you want, youre still a bigot to me, go document this quote to your bigotted archive
     
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    Dude, you are taking this way too personally. The word can be used as a racial slur. No one is arguing against that. But saying the word isn't racist nor is having a damn pet.
     
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    Cool, I'm so happy someone that doesn't adhere to definitions, lies about their gender (Nice female arm btw), and offers nothing relevant to the conversation but intellectually dishonesty, thinks I am a bigot.

    I'm very much a bigot towards intellectually dishonest people :)
     
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    Depends why that person called you a monkey. If it is because of something you said/did which they don't agree with and find idiotic then it is just hurtful. If it is due to your privilege and/or status within your greater community, due to your ethnicity and race then it very well possibly can be seen as racist. But this is not what happened here. Exactly why context matters.
     
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    @Sen @Dave Deviluke can we lock this thread as it is becoming off topic and a new ban appeal process has been granted?
     
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    Thanks for the compliment!

    I appreciate you repeating the same shit over and over again sexism of your land laws somehow affect this server. Kinda like a colonialist forcing to adopt their horseshit.

    Believe me, Ill try to make this clear as possible, since you prolly cant hear on your high horse, youre a full blown BIGOT
     
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