Long term ban instead of permanent ban

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A long term ban instead of a permanent ban

  1. 1. I agree with a long-term ban and I am an active player.

  2. 2. I disagree with a long-term ban and I am an active player

  3. 3. I agree with a long-term ban but I am a permabanned player

  4. 4. I disagree with a long-term ban but I am a permabanned player.

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  1. Kenny
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    This is what a constructive feedback looks like, thank you.
    On the other note, robotic play/paper weighting botting is actually 14 days then permanently for 2nd offense. The macro botting is considered as hacking therefore permanently on first offense.
     
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  2. Aradia Megido
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    That's a really nice and TL way of saying this, which I already addressed earlier.
     
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    Thanks for your data and analysis, that definitely helps a lot.

    the thing is exactly you said ,the punishment fits the crime will be good for this server cuz the 30% around people invited by the friend, in the long term if we keep doing this with no change we will lose players at all.
     
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    if you open that door mapleroyals is going to dissapear, people love to cheat

    just behave and you're good ~imboss
     
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    how?
     
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    Notorious cheaters cheating then asking for forgiveness just to cheat again

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    all you need is few of these to ruin a whole server.

    You're from venezuela you prolly heard what happened to the mmorpg Tibia a few years ago
     
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    You know, I think there's something really wrong when you can just abuse the voting system and get away with it without an automatic vote-detection that prevents you from vote abusing. No rule will stop the ban evaders from continue vote abusing and is silly to think by permabanning everyone the server will be safe
    (Guess what, they will just make more and more accounts because once again, this is business for them, they are not going to ask for permission or appeal because they know it's a waste of time, as it is easier to change IP/MAC and making a new account)

    Instead, what you can do is reduce certain sentences that don't make sense at all. Staff cannot afford to lose many more players as from Ilyssia's charts there is a slow but guaranteed player loss. If they don't wake up and do something about it then one day this server will be left empty without people. If hackers are ruining the server, then you gotta put priorities on developing tools (autoban) to prevent them from flooding the server.

    If after all these restrictive rules THERE ARE STILL vote abusers wreaking havoc whilst evading ban, let me tell you, you aren't doing right your job.

    I think server next door has a fully developed autoban and they made a few changes to prevent the economy from breaking, but I can't guarantee that for sure as I haven't played on that server. I hope staff comes into reasoning and do some stuff to captivate and recover the lost players, and I hope it does it quick or the future of this server will be pretty much doomed if they keep losing players at this rate. I don't want to play on a dead server. Do you?
     
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    It seems that they have not done so now.?????

    The problem now is not to open up or lower the threshold.

    Instead, it is to adjust the punishment so that players who are really willing to repent can rejoin the game.

    This is my main point. After all, as mentioned above, 30% of the people on this server are invited by friends

    If we don't make any changes, we will lose those players or more in the end.
     
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    last time i played mapleroyals the max players was like 800 on busy days, now we're getting 1700+

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    mapleroyals isnt losing players, you're all delusional
     
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    You had better check ilyssia's data the data since we running the auto ban
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    The system doesn't give limit on how many clients your computer opens.

    So if you want, you can open a lot of clients and it will be added to the players online.
    For example, there are 400 players(real world) and everyone opens 3 clients.
    It means there will be 1200 players online.

    I think it's not easy to find some members for PQ.(like CWKPQ, horntail, etc.) It means the number of players is decreasing.

    Usually they(some fixed players) smega for buyers instead of fighters. And the party is full of their friends or mules. As I know, some or most of the party members open at least 2 clients to improve the lack of specific jobs instead of finding new members.

    This will result in some issues:people feel hard to earn mesos or level up.
    It may affect players' feeling and make them leave the game.

    So I think if there is a new player first time made a mistake(not on purpose, and system needs to give him a warning message), we should give him a chance to change himself and become a normal player.
     
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    When I joined on late March this year, ONLINE playerbase capped around 2.2k at max.
    As of July, Max playerbase is 1.6-1.7k at max. You rarely see more than that on this month.

    Assuming this is not MuleStory and that 100% of the players are for real, that's a huge 600-700 player drop in the short spawn of 4 months.

    But you and me and whoever is reading this know that indeed, this is Mulestory, of course there are lots of mules inflating the playerbase, so when it says 800-1500 players online. It's actually less than that. I personally own 4 mules and yes, I can log 4 of them at the same time.

    Imagine if every player owned 4 mules and logged them at the same time. Playerbase/4
    so 1600/4=400 ;
    or so 800/4= 200

    With this data, plus Ilyssia's chart View attachment 137357
    I don't think I'm being delusional.
     
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    It still doesnt justify leaving the jail with the doors open

    if you want to lure new players to the game there are other ways to do it ~f7
     
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    It seems that the server next door it's doing a better job when it comes to "luring new players to the game"
    Other than that, I can't explain the continuous player loss from this server. It's like, something is driving them mad away of this server, not just the the banned people.
     
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    I say a example

    we encounter this me and my friend about 9 people decided to leave this server whatever happened, cuz the rule seems harsh not only me be ban reason.

    They are scared by this case If they not remember "do I have vote today and accident vote at early morning and late evening" or something they will be ban like that.

    Or they have abused it before. Even if they follow the law now, it is hard to guarantee that they will not be turned over in the future

    You may say that they won't ban you because of this, but who knows, my friends all agree to withdraw from this place until they make a clear demarcation on the punishment rules.

    Look this is a really clean case for this

    And I think there should be more in this
    (look up the ban appeal )
     
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    He can play on the laptop and vote when he play in the morning.

    and in late night he try to ask himself did he voted?>> then open up the cell phone to vote and get rekt

    This is absolutely possible. Of course, you can say that he just needs to turn on the computer to confirm it. But some people don't get out of bed and turn on the computer because of this, or they don't think they have done it in the daytime.


    ---------------------------second problem---------

    That's the problem. GM didn't say how big and serious it would be. It would be a permanent ban.

    Not everyone would dare to do it at the risk of being permanently banned.

    The point of the problem is that you can't know what you will get after you do it.

    What's more, there's a problem with what you said.

    If someone abuses it to a certain extent in advance and then makes a confession, some people hide it very secretly, and it's hard for you to determine whether this person is the so-called "deliberate confession".
     
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    To prevent accidental double voting, vote with only one account if possible. If you try to vote with a different IP/device before the server reset, the website will display you have already voted and you must wait x time before you can vote again.
     
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    If so why this guy (in my article)can do that? will he be blocked right?

    *he direct open by paste the gtop100.com website use the cellphone
     
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