Long term ban instead of permanent ban

@Dave Deviluke I didn't have time to double check and wasn't expecting a mod to include them without checking if they make sense, because right now options 3 and 4 don't make any sense. Could you change the poll to include options that actually now make sense? (Yes I double checked now this error won't happen again)

1. Check this box if you are an active player who agrees with long-term ban.
2. Check thtis box if you are an active player who agrees with permanent ban.
3. Check this box if you are a permabanned who agrees with long-term ban.
4. Check this box if you are a permabanned who agrees with permanent ban.

It is implied the ban we are talking about is for major vote abuse, because that's the reason OP is
permabanned but it's up to him if he allows other permabanned players who are banned for other reason that isn't major vote abuse to express their opinion for example account sharing bans.

@Kamayuks Language barrier again my bro, next time I'll make sure something actually makes sense even before suggesting it.

 

I think the poll isn't really important things,
poll sometime just provides someone's view point same or agree, because I am first time to use this function so I doesn't know the biases you means will be serious like that.
In a word,poll not main thing in the article now is fine with that.

Can we just back and talk about the topic in my article ?

 

Thank you for your help and understanding.

I am appreciate about that.

 

Yeah but I am not botting or hacker or something like that so I can't hardly said the example like that, I just can say mine opinions.

I means the most Banned like me Just want chance to change ourselves I am not sure they think about so I missed up.

but now the poll be changed is it enough ?

 

Maybe we can add more choices to this voting issue.
Here is my suggestion:

1.What kind of player are you?
(1). Active new player (play mapleroyals for 1-4 weeks)
(2). Active long-time player (play mapleroyals for several months or years)
(3).Banned new player
(4).Banned long-time player

2.What's your opinion about this issue?
(1).I agree with long-term ban instead of permanent ban when voting abuse first time. Because they may not read T&C carefully and made mistakes unconsciously.
I think they didn't vote abuse on purpose and there should be an alternative punishment for this first time offense.

(2).I disagree with opinion (1). Because voting abuse may destroy the balance in game. They did this on purpose.
And they should get a permanent ban even if it's their first time offense.

(3).Other opinions

 

Can this voting system be made, like the example given by bish above, technically? Two votes, two things like this

 

no vote abuse in polls pls

 

Hello Dave I have asked friends that the poll options should have to change.

here's our final idea for this topic

1. I agree with a long-term ban and I am an active player.
2. I disagree with a long-term ban and I am an active player
3. I agree with a long-term ban but I am a permabanned player
4. I disagree with a long-term ban but I am a permabanned player.

Separate the options between permanently and activate player that should be not biased and will be more Referential.

Could you help me again ?

 

I’m gonna be a buzzkill again and say that the sample of the survey is going to be highly skewed and inaccurate as there has to be the assumptions that:

1) Permabanned players actually still linger forums and will see this thread/survey and actually reply
2) Permabanned/active players alike will be honest with their replies

*There is still not a response for a nuanced opinion of retaining permanent bans while including long-term bans on specific situations.

I think the tough part of this discussion on bans is that it is a highly detailed and scenario-specific topic. Perhaps a public survey is not the best way to approach a topic as nuanced as this and maybe offering detailed, case-based solutions to specific articles in the T&C would be more appropriate for feedback?

 

I didn't think of permabanned players actually leaving the forums but your assumption makes more sense I guess. I would consider myself an active player but instead I'm playing in another server so I'm not that really active anymore. Just in the forums maybe? I would like to help OP and prevent this thread from being forgotten since many input has been given by many different players and I'm not gonna bump it for the sake of bump. But on the least this thread should deserve more attention. The new poll options was my idea btw gonna admit it isn't the best one and can be improved but thanks for pointing out that anyways. I'm just thinking that not 100% of permabanned players will leave the server without trying to ban evade but asking if permabanned players are still here so they can voice their opinion when naturally they should not be here in the forums now feels very dumb to me.

What people do when get permabanned? They either ban evade or leave the server. Kinda lika a 50/50 and a poll won't accurately reflect this, just like you said.

 

If a permabanned player keep reading the article on forum instead of ignoring everything about mapleroyals, maybe it represents he wants to find another way to come back to mapleroyals.

Maybe someone got permabanned when voting abuse first time. T&C says if you vote abuse first time, you will get a temporary ban. However, if the situation is serious enough, you still get a permaban.

In Kamayuks previous reply:
"You can vote many times on Gtop website directly if you want instead of coming from mapleroyals website"


If this is true,
Perhaps someone found mapleroyals on Gtop and voted abuse unconsciously.
They just only want voting for the games they like. However, this result in a permanent ban punishment for their account.

Maybe there should be a chance for voting abusers to play mapleroyals again.
I think this situation isn't as serious as hacking or rwt issues.

It's not that serious to get a permaban.

 

Thank you for your reply.

I've thought about what you said, but it's really difficult for me to find several typical types that can convince the GM team, because I don't know the details of those cases.
I only have the information given by my friends, which is quite narrow, but the information you put forward is very important. I'll try to do it

Because I have something to do in the real world, I Can't reply to articles very often, but anyway, this is just a discussion topic, and I hope other GMs and players can express their view points.

Since I don't have more case information to discuss, there are only some statistics on players' replies.

Maybe I should focus on discussing whether players will change after being punished or not?

 

"Very thorough"

feels bad when you get reported for RWT with fabricated evidence and you get responses like

Spoiler: nice reply

Spoiler: amazing reply

and they don't even check all evidence so it's not even worth fighting LOL

Spoiler: why aint you ask don timk

shouldve asked the owner if i paid him real money for his stuff. Also why would i pay real money for items when he is perma banned LOLOLOL you real funny timk

 

so that day the website was down (ddos?) and I attempted to use the link, I’m not getting the NX?