Long term ban instead of permanent ban

I agree 100%.

Perma ban is too harsh for some things like account sharing and vote abusing depending on the context and intent of the player. I've lost too many good friends over the years who were dedicated players and great people due to this

Even look at Steam that has like VAC bans that last for a long time but eventually expire.

 

Thank you for your reply, Becca.
Maybe my friend lied to me, but I know it's true that he rarely votes.

We even told him to do it many times.
I understand my own fault, so I won't complain more about my own case (except the IP ban problem).
I hope you can adopt my ideas and give them some opportunities for reflection when dealing with these cases in the future.

In short, I hope you will be merciful.
After all, people need some lessons.

My idea is on my title, which is to replace permanent ban with a long time ban.
(That's how feedback Do right?)

 

I don't even know about it. (this thing)

It's really hard for you. (thanks your work hard)

I wonder who is so bored to attack a private server. After all, it's unprofitable?

 

Thank you, matt, for creating this server, and it's up to you to make the final decision.

I'm just saying this in terms of feedback. Thank you for your hard work and dedication

I want to say thank you for giving me the opportunity to relive my childhood.

Just some people's fault, really not to permanent ban>my main point not for my case but other guys in the Community

 

I read your point thoroughly

But vote abusers deserve more than just perma ban if you ask me

Put aside the naivety that tells you "they did it by mistake" or "it was an accident" because we all know thats a load of bullshit.

You only get permabanned when its major vote abuse.

I may be slightly harsh when im wording this but thats because im a merchant and vote abusers ruin the market for me. Its so fking dead right now.

Still, I think vote abusers should not just get perma banned, they should be shamed forever in a hall of shame of some sort

 

I think mapleroyals' team should ask ban appeal makers more detailed question even though it will increase the process time. It is important to keep the correctness of the punishment of these ban appeals.

In those banned players, I believe there might be someone that was banned accidentally. And the player wanted to take his account back but GM kept saying "You were perma banned. You can no longer play mapleroyals."

Maybe there are some people who really did serious mistakes. But it has a possibility that there are some not-that-serious people in these perma banned players. They didn't want to be implicated. But they had no way to get their account back. So they finally left the game.

I hope GM can think twice before making a decision. It's important to give a fair punishment.

 

Ok, I think it's time for me to do something unusual and tell you why you got banned.
Originally I wasn't going to say anything, but then I saw how you keep claiming the evidence is fabricated while even blaming Rogue for this (lol).
Not only you make the community question the integrity of Tim, but you also try and make Rogue look bad.

So lets end this lie shall we?
I am the one who reported you, the evidence is there and it is VERY solid - so solid that I even had to take videos of discord chats to confirm that the profiles are indeed those people.
Not only staff know you RWTed from Don, they also know how much you paid.
It's no secret now that Don was ban evading to sell whatever remained of his gear, and it's also no secret that you are not the only one who bought his stuff.
You were just the only one who wasn't smart enough to keep it a secret and admitted it.

So yea, it's nothing personal since I barely knew you, but the evidence was presented to me and since I support fair play I did what's right.

Now please let the thread go back to it's original subject, I won't respond to any of your messages since I already proved anything I need to Tim.
Have a nice day, and play fair in the future.

 

SNITCHES GET STICHES

@bom3 you spent like a month talking shit publicly, like damn at least own up to it, just one of those blame the world personality types, that's a lot more damning than you buying gear in a video game that takes months/years to gather. One says your inpatient, the other says you lack any self awareness.

 

I think she is talking about other people like the one botting with the pet or the guy asking for perma ban due to X problem and wanting to come back, or the guy who asked a technician to check his connection because he wasn't able to play the game and needed ot to test his network and the game itself yet got a ban for account sharing when he was asking also for help on the shoutbox and told this all situation with the net technician, it dont have to be about vote abuse or real world trade only, there have been other kind of situations where the rules are above a logical and fair punishment.

 

You made me recalled that day everyone is playing counter strike.

maybe VAC's problem not similar for this but Referential

 

I'm talking about some people like:

1. An active player(who follows the rules/T&C) bought a lot of APRS/NX items from vote abusers. And the seller was caught for major vote abuse and got perma banned after a few days. I'm not sure whether the buyer will be distinguished as an accomplice and got banned.

2. Sometimes old players want to help the new player(maybe it's their friends or someone is really poor at early game) to grow faster and give them some useful items(maybe a lot of mesos or valuable gears) for free or lower prices out of kindness or friendship. I'm not sure if they will be perma banned for vote RWT.

I'm curious about these situations and how GM handle these qurstions.
These are fuzzy zones for me.

 

why would the buyer of those aprs/nx be branded as an accomplice? He paid moneys worth for them. The offence does not pass onto others like that.

Regarding players who quit or genuinely nice players wanting to give gear to new players, I can say that it wont trigger a ban because I myself have received a wa 4 facestompers from a kind soul IGN: XiaoAmazon which she allowed me to sell for mesos (500m) and use the mesos to merch.

She also gave me a wa 3 fs 1 slot and paid for my leech on a couple occasions.

As long as your conscience is clear and you definitely did not rwt, you dont have to be afraid of getting banned.

 

Wow it's really nice of her. I hope I can meet this kind of person at early game.

I want to clarify some points:
What I am worried about in Q1 is the vote abuser gained the NX items by abnormal way.

If we bought those NX items, will it be distinguished as an unusual trade just like we picked up hacked items(those items all from unusual way) and were suspected as an accomplice?

 

Staff will probably just remove the hacked items rather than banning you.

However, if you are referring to a specific ban appeal which has the player saying he didnt know he looted hacked items, i can assure you that player was twisting his story because following the metric of common sense, one would not pick up 100s of APRs/ dubious amounts of CS/WS and say "ah just another normal day today". Even if by some miracle this happened, Staff only ban if the evidence is conclusive, aka evidence of that player soliciting rwt or screenshots of conversations.

Ban appeals arent the full story and as much as I'd love to take up the mantle of defending my fellow casual players, they must first give me something to defend. Looking at their stories I just find it embarassing that most of them cant even concoct a story without contradicting themselves

 

I've had that doubt in the past but it's actually pretty simple, a RWT just loot their things and doesn't pay anything in game. If you think about it is not that hard to catch them since they can check the trade history. Player A dropped 100 apr then player b trade mesos, if it is 1 way only then they'll check for it.

As for giving away mesos/items to friends (or getting them) is more of the same... A RWT will be like "I don't remember his ign, it was something with K he just logged in and gave me away 20b worth of items and logged out without saying a word coz he was in a rush" i mean, it is kinda obvious when is a friend giving you items for good and when it is some random real trader mule selling stuff. When I quitted a few years ago I gave away tons of items and with the time I logged in a few more times to gacha and chaos items for fun just to give it away to whoever was on at the time on my buddy list, I gave away around 20b worth of items in that time with no a single person triggering a ban for that, despite every trade being 1 way only and never logging in again, when I came back a few months ago I had around 1.5m nx from voting and helped a lot of guildies as well with liquid mesos and items (4-5att clean capes, scrolled fs, raw mesos, etcetera) and any of them are banned nor am i lol
They check everything before banning a RWT but of course we still humans and mistakes can be made on both parts, that's why we have a ban appeal section here and just a reminder that we can only see one side of that coin.

 

It's not allowed f0r doing RWT in Mapleroyals.
But I'm curious about some details when GM wants to catch some suspicious players.
How can GM distinguish some players who RWT on purpose?
By checking total price on one or more trade record? (For example, player A got 2 CS from player B with no payment)
By checking if A item worth B item? (For example, player A got 1 WS from player B with an overall int 30% for payment)

Maybe we should come back to our topic:Vote abuse.
There is not a good place to discuss about RWT.

 

The topic is not vote abuse, is overall perma ban when the advantage in game is not that harmful to warrant a forever ban but instead could be a long term ban, call it 1, 2, 3 or even 6 months and account wipe / account ban instead of ip/mac ban, I think most people are discussing about vote abuse because OP started this for a friend getting banned for vote abuse.

And for your question I don't think you will get an answer because it could warn people traying to RWT on how they check for suspicious activities.