Mark of Naricain vs. Horntail Pendant

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Do you want a nerf on Mark of Naricain so the HTP is still the best end game pendant for attacker?

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  1. Ayane
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    Is it even possible though? I thought there is a JQ and everyone have to participate in it. You can't just be a buyer and do nothing
     
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    being tradable would let runners dump mediocre ones as they reloot towards a godly. especially if htp will still be the best endgame pendant. i changed my mind, +1 to tradable
     
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    I have a mixed feeling I do like it being tradeable myself since I have the worst RNG luck in the history of all carbon based creatures. I rather just buy than attempt to reloot or scroll my own gear. But idk...
     
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    You'd still have the incentive of getting money from the PQ, 8 atk necklace with godly stats could probably sell for like 10B or more maybe. People still do HT even when they have strong HTP.
    It's actually the opposite, if it was untradeable then everyone who have a strong HTP will have no reason to do this PQ when you can just ignore it and use your HTP instead.
     
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    It doesn't need to be tradeable for that, just not one of a kind.
     
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    well i was thinking dump in fm for some profit
     
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    You underestimate what people would do for extra range , and don't forget about the Taos
     
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    Being tradable would be good for both kind of people:

    Who doesn't like to PQ could buy it with no worries like Dieing or DCing.
    And who do it would have a good profit, and different than Zakum/HTP, they wouldn't lose a run if the buyer dc.
     
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    +1 to making MoN tradeable. Would give attackers a more reliable way of making money instead of having to rely on bringing a buyer into the PQ.
     
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    guys always gotta make a market for something eh, happy with the results, but a hard no on making it tradeable, this is something that should be able to be obtained by players, not sold to
     
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    I realy hope that you guys reconsider making the MoN this strong, because if it will get released like this, then it is just as good as a perfectly chaosed HTP and at the same time it is much easier to optain.

    HTP: 13 main Attribute (clean) + 15 main Attribute (egg) + 10 main Attribute (perfectly chaosed) = 38 main Attribute
    A HTP like that is more or less impossible to create tbh.
    MoN: 11 main Attribute + 32 main Attribute (8 atk * 4) = 43 main Attribute
    A MoN like this is kinda easy to optain tbh.

    I know the HTP is giving 12 secondary Attribute more then the MoN but people who look for the best gear wont need that, thats the reason why I excluded it.

    Another strong factor you should keep in mind is, that selling HTP's is and always was a good method to make some money and therefore a good reason to keep hunting down HT even if you are lvl 200.
    If the MoN gets released like this then this reason simply wont exist anymore. Since nobody would pay for a HTP.

    So your not only creating and implementing a Pendant which will be as strong as the HTP if not better, because easier to optain. You are aswell taking away a reason to boss if you are already 200.


    I dont even want to talk about making this thing tradeable... I want to cry already.
     
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    Sorry don't you get just 2 slots after egging? So primary stat would be 38 if perfectly done?

    Agree that it should be kept untradeable
     
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    Ooooops ofc, let me adjust that
     
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    You need insane luck to get godly +5 on both weapon attack and stats too , it's not easy to obtain at all
     
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    Even if you were to get an 8att 6main stat MoN it would be exactly on par with a perfect HTP which requires 2 chaos scrolls to go +5.. Idk how this seems reasonable for an activity that is less challenging to complete.
     
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    The chance to get 8 atk will probably be incredibly low, around the same like getting 13 stat godly HTP.
    Also say you have 13/10 HTP and like 8 atk 7/7 MoN. 13/10 with egg would be 28/25 and 53 stats in total. 8 atk 7/7 (8/11/11 is unrealistic) HTP would be 54 stats in total (if 5 stat=1 atk) so that's actually very similar. That's without chaosing too.

    And the secondary attribute is equal to the primary one (unless you're a drk or something then you'd only need STR) cause if you have too much STR for example you can make your overall scrolled with DEX instead.
     
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    What's the point of releasing new content just to nerf the rewards so hard it's going to sit there like opq?
     
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    Community be like "Hey, I have a godly HT necklace/scarf, let's nerf all the unreleased necklace!"
    Things gonna happen again when Scarlion helmet comes :xD:
     
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    A friend did the math. You're 9x more likely to get a 13/13 than you are too get a 8/11/11.
     
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    There was always talking about nerfing mon even 2 years ago when ht wasn't up for long
    At the end , the effort : gain ratio for both mon and htp seems balanced to me and there are other rewards worth going for aswell but only time will tell
     
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