I think that the last two months are kind of unreasonable.data as well because it was summer. During summer, many of the people who play on the server are on summer vacation, leading to more time spent on royals finding items, gaching, and getting mesos in general. It makes sense that as people go back to school and have less time for royals, prices will fluctuate. I have made probably around 3b just from mesos, items I found npc/scrolls) and gach in under 2 months. I obviously had expenses so I dont have that saved, but if its possible to amass that much money with half the time being spent just building up the character, I think meso sinks are a pretty good idea. For the record, I am a bishop and no I have never sold leech. I can imagine others who do would have made more money than I.
I dont see how it is taking money from the poor and giving it to the rich. The "poor" you are mentioning are unable to go on these runs themselves and acquire the books themselves. Sure, maybe the books could be cheaper, but do you know how much time is invested in these runs? And how many of them dont finish due to dcs? Also, yeah the books are pricey, but have you imagined that the books are being split between all of the members of the run? for a 6 person zak run you only make like 12m off of a helm. tbh someone could probs farm that in 15min instead of hoping that their buyers dont dc. Many people do bosses for the exp and considering its a service only higher levels can provide, and its one you dont HAVE to buy until you can go on run, it just seems silly to me. People just want their items right away which is why they are willing to pay money for it. They could just as easily wait until they are also at a higher level. I dont disagree with the fact that its easier to make money when you have something to fall back on. I disagree with the fact that youre making it out as if higher players are stealing from the "poor" when they in turn will eventually become higher level players and be able to go on these runs.
High level players making money from scrolling and whatnot has nothing to do with money sinks. The main reason I made this thread is because we're eventually getting to the point where we will have a lot of mesos in circulation and it'd be nice if we figured out a way to get rid of them to avoid influx. This isn't an argument against high level players making more or lower level players getting a disadvantage.
I think I messed up with writing that post. I didn't mean to say that the so called 'rich' (aka veterans) are stealing or whatever from the so called poor (aka new players). I just wanted to say that all these things generate money (extra money, on top of regular NPC-ing, getting drops from monsters, regular gacha-ing, selling resets,...) these boss runs, making expensive material with expensive scrolls, and so on are things that a new player can't afford and therefore can't "benefit" from YET! This is normal, that's the way it goes. Everyone started out this way, i know i did (do). I think I mentioned this before in my post somewhere. Anyways as Plenty said this was not the point of this thread, so this was my sugestion (like i mentioned in an earlier post): Change Trading taxes and maybe even add another ladder to this 1m = 0,1%, 5m = 1%, 10m = 2%, 100m = 5%, 500m = 10% Or something along those lines...
10%? That's way too extreme. Besides, people can just put up a bunch of Arrows for 1m in the shop and trade like that. Easy transfer of 2b for only 0.1% tax.
Wouldn't you need to buy arrow per arrow? That would be quite a dreadfull way to transfer 2b. Also if I'm not mistaking, trading in between characters is already 5% tax at +10m.
Am I wrong to think that having the Maker skill would be a good meso sink? Removes the NPC value from equips when you break them down, requires a good amount of ingredients and has an actual meso penalty to maker the item. This could meso amount could be raised for higher level equips if we felt it was too low.
INCOME TAX WITH THE TAX FUNDS BEING USED TO SUPPORT THE POOR FIREWORKS! The GMs can do our tax forms whenever they get bored of laughing at Ban Appealers
i am oki with the ideas of plenty in the first page this items specially ap reset in store from game would be fine so who is ready to buy buy fast but i agree it shouldnot be overpricy like avg price is 9m so 9m or less would be fine and for other items i agree with it too so u donot depend and wait for a seller for this items
What about buying a coupon with Meso from a Vendor, that then allows you to redeem it in the Cash Shop for an NX Cosmetic Item. No items, like Gach, Resets or Smega's would be available to redeem for. They would still require NX. There could be multiple prices of Coupons to buy, with each one granting access to a different set of Cash Shop items based on the type of Coupon you purchased. I'm not sure how hard this would be to implement, but I know I would def use it to buy my NX items, instead of having to use my actual NX.
Immediate problem is in your own point. "You would use it to buy your NX instead of having to use my actual NX". This would mean if people wanted to buy more gach tickets, but also like to buy cosmetic items, this would give them a way to be able to maintain both at a greater rate. The day you would have spent you're 8k NX on clothes, you now can save for gach tickets. That's how I see it being a problem anyways.
I dont see how this is a problem. You can still use your NX on Items in the cash shop, this just allows people who dont want to save up NX to buy a pet or a new overall to be able to drop 50-100 mill on a ticket and get what they want. Either way, the way the system works right now, your NX is turned into Meso and thats part of why theres such meso instability thats starting to arise. Buying tickets with Meso takes meso out of the economy.
This is how it's a problem: I have 30k NX, I want to buy a pet, with its pet essential equip(autos, loot, meso). But I also want to buy 35 gach tickets. The current method would be to either wait till you have enough or buy less gach tickets in order to buy the pet as well. Your method would give people the opportunity to get the 35 gach tickets, on the exact same day they also bought a pet with all the essentials. At the end of the day to me, although you would spend mesos to buy cosmetic things, it just lets people save up NX faster for more important things like gach/ap resets without having the distraction of clothes and pet things.
If you gach or sell ap resets\Tp rocks. You dont generate more mesos that are around. You push items in the market and get already existing mesos in exchange. I guess this thread is about removing already existing mesos from the game. So basically this idea will work. Dont know if its gonna work that well or even if its possible to implent. We would need 3 kinds of NX (rp regular and eq only NX) and change all avaibilitys from items.
I know this thread hasn't been touched in a year but I think we can all agree that taxes won't work. White scrolls are now the new currency that is used to make big transactions. They are used because they ignore both the meso cap and taxes Their high use in transactions gives them a very stable price that will never be changed (if the maperoyals team forces it to change the economy will be ruined) The bizzare thing about the economy is that we are not seeing the crazy inflation that plagues other mmos even though there are billions of mesos coming into the economy every day from npcs So have the money sinks worked? From looking at the server you would have to say that they are since the prices of everything seem to be stable I think the economy is stable because users choose to keep the status quo (which is a stupid theory since the market forces should prevail) I guess I don't really have a point I just want to know what people think about the current economic situation. (and maybe bring this thread back to life) Also, should there be a special item that surpasses the meso cap? If we have different special coin items for 50m 100m 500m 1 bil and 5 bil mesos or whatever they cant be taxated because people will just use white scrolls instead. Which brings the question: should we risk any potential abuse (bugs) from this competely new system if we already have white scrolls?
And every day billions of Mesos are removed from the economy via taxes and Albert in the Free Market. Since Nov 2014 merchant tax alone has removed a total of 2,137,008,467,463 mesos (almost 300b in the past 2 months). So even though white scrolls are being used as 'currency' by some players, tax is still removing a lot of mesos, so I'd say tax is working and it helping to keep the economy stable.
I agree! It's amazing that the economy is as stable as it is 1 question to the mapleroyals team. Do you guys think that using white scrolls as currency that can be taxated is a problem? It makes transactions that surpass the meso limit easier but it also means that these huge transactions are untaxed
