Night Lord / Shadower HP Washing Above 20k HP

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    Ok thanks. I complete my 2nd job advancement with luk gear and appo.
     
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    Hi wan to ask. When is the right timing to start Apr my base int and put into damage stat? Is that when I think I got the enough hp?
     
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    When you have enough HP, AND when you have enough MP to be able to pull all the AP you've put into HP, out of MP into DEX/LUK. If you don't have enough extra mp to pull out the APs, then you want the base int to MP wash otherwise your choice is to pull the AP out of HP back into DEX/LUK.
     
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    Thanks
     
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    Hi, I'm new to washing. Right now I have lv74 chief bandit with no int added. Based on what I've read, this is my understanding. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

    I should level up once to get fresh AP. Add 1 fresh AP to HP. -MP +HP until I reach minimum MP.

    Then, I add the remaining 4 fresh AP and future fresh AP to int until I have atleast 200 int? I can then +HP -MP +stat for the rest of levels until I am happy with my HP? Once happy with HP, I can then -Int +stat and be done with washing.

    Am I right?
     
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    Because of your late start, it no longer makes financial sense to add 200 INT for washing. At this point, doing the repeatable HP quest at lv120 will be a better use of your time, and you won't have to spend billions doing an inefficient washing process.

    You should have a little bit of extra MP even unwashed. From now on, every level, add fresh AP to HP, then use an APR to see if you can do -MP +LUK. Do this one by one. If the -MP option isn't grayed out, then do it. If it is grayed out, then you are at minimum MP so stop adding fresh AP to HP and add directly to LUK instead, and check to see if you can -MP +LUK after leveling up again.

    This will get you a little bit more HP than if you were unwashed, but to reach higher HP you'll have to do the HP quest. You can reach 15k this way pretty realistically.

    However, if you have an infinite amount of money to spend and don't care about inefficiency, and want to get as much HP as possible, then here is the process:

    1. every level, add fresh AP to HP then -MP +INT. Eventually you won't be able to -MP anymore so when that happens, add directly to INT.
    2. When you reach 200 INT, stop. Now every level add 5 fresh AP to MP, then -MP +LUK (5x).
    3. When you're tired of doing this and want to do damage, move all INT to LUK, and do -MP +HP as much as the game will let you
     
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    Hi. I am currently lv70 now. But my Apr are finished at the moment. Can I just continue level up and keep my level up AP until I got APR to direct hp or mp wash in future?
    Or it’s still better to keep 5 APR per level up?

    1 more question. Can I just Hp wash between lv71-135?
     
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    Hi Bacon. I found this interesting. Especially these parts:

    1) From now on, every level, add fresh AP to HP, then use an APR to see if you can do -MP +LUK. Do this one by one. If the -MP option isn't grayed out, then do it. If it is grayed out, then you are at minimum MP so stop adding fresh AP to HP and add directly to LUK instead, and check to see if you can -MP +LUK after leveling up again.

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    2) 1. every level, add fresh AP to HP then -MP +INT. Eventually you won't be able to -MP anymore so when that happens, add directly to INT.

    Let's say we have a char that is level 35. It has always been 5 AP from level up going into INT. The plan is to hit 200 INT. Then from then on, MP wash = +5 APs to MP and then -5 from MP and add +5 to LUK. I miss the part why we need to +5 HP and then -5 HP and add into INT or LUK...would you be able to kindly elaborate? Thanks!!
     
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    I hope that -5 HP was just a typo. The point of this process is to get more HP; under no circumstances EVER should you use an APR to lower your HP. It is supposed to be -5 MP. If you are given clear instructions and mess up because you read them wrong, then things are not going to go well for you.

    Basically this is meant to take advantage of the small pool of extra MP that you would have naturally. Think of fresh AP as a resource. There are 3 ways to use it:
    1: add to HP, then -MP +stat. This gives 20-24 HP per APR instead of 16-20 HP if you did -MP +HP directly.
    2. add to MP, then -MP +stat. This is called MP washing. This gives (base INT/10 - 1) MP per APR. For efficiency, we only want to do this when we reach the INT goal of 200.
    3. add to stat directly. No benefit is gained.

    Since we want to MP wash only when we reach the INT goal, we do #1 instead of #3 as long as we have extra MP to spend.
     
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    Thanks Bacon. This was insightful. At what stage should we start HP washing? I now know that we should MP wash when we hit our base INT goal, but the HP washing bit still has me stumped.
     
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    The conversion of MP to HP, no matter the method, does not depend on your base INT so you can do it as long as you have more than the minimum MP.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification. So the plan is to level:
    1. +1 AP point to HP
    2. Use 1 APR and -MP and +INT till I hit the goal
    3. After I hit the goal, use 1 APR and -MP and +LUK/DEX. Assuming each time I still can pull from my MP pool.
    If I can't pull any more MP using APR, it should mean I've hit min MP and focus on MP washing, which is +5 level AP points to MP and then -MP 5 times to add to LUK/DEX.

    Is this method correct?
     
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    No, please read more carefully. At step 3 you will add fresh AP to MP, then use APR to -MP +LUK.
     
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    Hi. I have some doubts

    1) base int is included with equip or without equip ?

    2) If i have reach my base int, and its time for MP wash. I add all 5 fresh AP to MP. Use APR to -MP to add into luk/dex, or to add into HP? or is there any situation basis to add to stat instead of HP vice versa?

    Thank you for helping me. :)
     

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