Night Lord / Shadower HP Washing Above 20k HP

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  1. huehuehue
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    it's like this, im currently level 134. Thank you so much.
     
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    Base MP 14870 - Min MP 2024 = 12846 extra mp
    12846 / 12 = 1070 washes
    Using straight hp to mp with it landing absolute minimum rolls every time (16) 1070 x 16 = 17128 hp
    17128 +8886 = 26014 hp at a minimum. This is not including HP gains from leveling up.

    You can gain more by HP washing fresh AP every level until 200 instead of using mp straight to hp. But if you want to just be done with it immediately and have 1070 APR, you will most definitely be above 26k hp @huehuehue
     
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    but I have some AP stucked in my HP & MP pool, when i reset it MP back to luk, wouldn't it reduce my MP resulting in less washes?
     
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    yes it would reduce the washes you can do. But I cant just see and look at your mp and stats and know how many ap you put in without washing out.
     
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    ahh i see, i'll try to figure out the number of ap stuck and reduce from the one you gave me. thank you so much again for your help.
     
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    I am just curious, currently working on MP washing right now as per the guide. I just wanted to ensure I was understanding correctly.

    My goal is approximately ~15,000 HP, if I've overshot that goal I wouldn't mind either (Below is without MW20 as I am leeching myself).

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    My question is in regards to -MP+HP later, I notice that this cannot be completed without putting fresh AP in either, but wouldn't putting AP into MP, then moving it from MP result in a loss of an AP which would lower my total LUK? Or is there something that I'm not comprehending in regards to -MP+HP?
     
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    question about 1 part here, it says at:
    “Level 136+
    2. If you are impatient you may -MP +HP todesired HP to reach your goal.”


    my question is, how else are you supposed to hp wash?
     
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    @brucejohn , just add 1 ap directly to hp and later reset doing -mp +luk.
    edit: sorry just saw you were talking about mp wash, yeah you add a point directly to mp and then do -mp +luk after
    and please add 1 more point into int so you can have 270, it only works with multiple of 10, so 269 is the same as 260

    @greenspook , you get more hp by adding a point directly into hp (20-24), if you do this other way, which is -mp +hp you will get 16-20 hp per point
     
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    Sorry I’m a washing noob. When u say adding a point directly into hp, do you mean fresh ap? Probably not cuz that would mean you’re losing luk. So isn’t -mp into hp the only way?
     
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    it is exactly adding fresh ap! :)
    you wont be losing luk because you do: use 1 ap directly into hp and then use 1 apr to remove -mp and +luk

    edit: keep in mind this is only for shadower and nightlord because they are different to wash
     
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    Oh I see now that makes sense! So just to sum it up, it doesn’t matter wether the ap you put is in hp/mp in order to -mp into luk (as long as as you have excess mp)
     
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    if you put in mp, you are mp washing, if you put into hp you are hp washing :)
    but yeah, doesnt make difference you can just -mp and +luk
     
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    Hope this guide continues to help all you new washers!
     
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    Hello PerfectSin,

    I am starting a NL soon and was wondering if you can help me with a guidance.

    My goal is to have 15000 HP by level 155-160ish.
    18750 HP by lvl 190-200.

    I just created the character Lv1 now.

    Thank you very much for helping out. Appreciate your time helping me wash my character.

    I am very confused when it comes to HP washing a thief or Archer. I can understand it perfectly for pirate or warrior. LOL
     
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    Hi, thank you for the guide.

    Just a question to anyone here. What is the recommended int equips you are using to achieve this? I am seeing that everyone has a minimum of 100+ int from int equips.
    If you could give a breakdown of the int equips and the range recommended for each equip, that would be really helpful.
    for example:

    Bandana 14-18?
    Bathrobe 18 int?

    Am trying to guage how much it takes to fund a NL and wash the character correctly (able to boss everything in the very long term), even if it takes me longer to achieve it

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    @PerfectSin thank you for guide bro, would you mind clarifying one item?

    Should I be HP Washing prior to reaching target base int? For example

    LVL 28, 127 Base Int + 80 from gear
    Until I reach goal of 240 Base do just add int, or add 5 to HP then wash it back to int?
     
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    What’s the ideal base int you will recommend with int 100 gears from lvl 50 to reach my target 20k clean hp at lvl 135? I have mw 20 on my bishop to leech. Thank you
     
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    Hey Perfect Sin, I just want to know some info. Do I hold onto fresh AP until level 70 before I actually start hp washing or do I hold onto to it after if I am also mp washing? As for mp washing, am I suppose to put it into my current int base or do I put it in my luk base?
     
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    You use your AP as you get it. the only time you should be saving fresh AP is when you reach your base int goal
     
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    Hi! Time for stupid questions :)

    I am very new to HP washing so sorry if this is dumb.

    If I put all my AP into INT until my INT goal (you know pre-30 and when mp washing), when do I actually get to do any damage? Because it seems to me that in order to be relevant late game as a NL, I can't enjoy the early game at all. Am I misunderstanding something here? Or am I literally just gonna have to get carried through everything or buy leech to even play a NL?
     
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