On the off-chance PB ever makes its appearance...

Discussion in 'Help & Advice' started by Yiks, Apr 24, 2015.

  1. mystercool
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    @yiks Why are you not studying? tsk tsk... XD jk I see your mind is on other things lol

    Just make a shadower and we can become shadower buddies! Sooo much easier than those other characters that you want to make lol.

    I don't have any int equips and I can already wash and get like 6k hp. Sooper easy XD
     
  2. GoodDoodoo
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    you'll get to 200 base int around lvl 44. From lvl 44 to 135, with 300 total int should be 1.875 washes per lvl. Thats about 3400 extra HP from just the extra MP. Assuming you get a couple more washes from your regular MP gain, i guess we can assume about 3600-3700 extra mp in those lvls. At around lvl 135, you have about 4200 base HP. Thats about 8000 HP potentially at lvl 135. With about 880 natural HP gain from lvl 135 to 175, you'd be at 8800 HP + however much extra MP you can convert into HP after washing with your reduced int. You'd be cutting it close. I'm not sure if you'd make it since i didnt have a chance to sit down and do the math precisely (sorry im at work), but from what i could gather, you'd be cutting it really close
     
  3. Endlessly
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    I'm always confused when I see people that think you need at least 20k HP to be able to go to PB. If I'm not mistaken, the only thing (besides touch damage) that's able to do anywhere near that amount of damage is Ariel's beams. These beams comedown with a 2 to 3 second delay, and can be avoided when you pay attention. The Ariel stage is really short as well (only in the 5th stage of the statue stages).

    I think you'll have a comfortable time at PB when you sit around 10~12k HP with HB, but I'm sure you can even push a lot lower.
     
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  4. Yiks
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    This is very encouraging news, if anyone can offer their opinion or their personal experience fighting pre-BB PB (say this 5 times quickly haha), feel free to share :)
     
  5. Endlessly
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    That is from my past experience. It's really long ago, so it isn't crystal clear. Back then it was amazing to even reach the PB stage ><.

    Here is a video of PB pre big bang:
    The massive damage you see from the rocks are most likely 1/1's. If you're patient enough you'll see an Ariel beam that does around 19k damage. The night lord has 9k HP, but survives throughout the whole run. Back then there's no way all the ranged DPS would have had anywhere near 20k washed HP.

    Now you can check some other videos or guides and you'll probably conclude the same. PB is all about following little tricks during the stages :).
     
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  6. Ario
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    Just a wild idea, How about releasing a weaker PB? (dmg wise)
     
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  7. Yiks
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    Out of our control, it's entirely the GMs' decisions so we're just basing on the PB we know.
     
  8. Plenty
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    If only the Admins/GMs had mercy...
     
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  9. Gangsta
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    That would make alot of sense, since this is a v62 server with v62 HP and damage. Implementing a "nerfed" version to compensate for our lower HP would be awesome.

    But who knows maybe the source will go to v83 and all of our HPs will be compensated to match the v83 setup.

    Who knows yet
     
  10. jmmainvi
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    I did math on this for drew previously. The most cost efficient way to get a sair to 11.5k is to get 170 base int ASAP (meaning pure int until ~level 37) and to MP wash for ~50 levels. If you dont want to MP wash you're going to need upwards of 400 int and you're going to need to keep it much later than you want to (~150).

    @yiks with your current stats I dont think you're going to hit 11.5k even by level 200.

    Use the HP wash spreadsheet to figure out how to get to 11.5k HP
     
  11. ImCanadian
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    Oh god, alright. Mp washing it is:( But I only need 170 base int? Alright I guess thats a good thing.
     
  12. jmmainvi
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    mp washing with 170 base actually saves you over 100 resets compared to mow much base you would need to add even with decent int equips. If you have GREAT int equips, it comes out nearly even.
     
  13. deionize
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    Was just thinking even if we had godly equips at lvl 200 with full parties we only stand a slim chance of defeating pink bean, not unless potential and wheel of fortune (the thing that let u respawn in map) is introduced. The sheer amount of hp (and the time taken will be like longest boss run ever) with the high damage of pink bean will still make the run hell.
     
  14. Andreas
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    It would be weird if the hardest boss in the game didn't take more time.
    We don't need wheel of fortune, just good bishops.
    It is far from being a slim chance, how do you calculate that there is a slim chance?
    Do you know how much damage the best attackers do?
    Might take a few trials but it will be killed.
     
  15. Plenty
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    I'm sure the Admins won't waste a huge amount of time working in Pink Bean just to release an unbeatable boss.
     
  16. deionize
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    Just saying that basse on what happened in maplesea when it was just release (no one able to defeat it). I hope this end game boss will be also the hardest ever boss too!
     
  17. Rob
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    Challenge accepted.
     
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  18. OverComing
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    How much HP I need as a bucc to do Pink Bean? I have 9k at lvl 122.
     
  19. Andreas
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    I would guess a melee class would want 30k HP with HB.
     
  20. OverComing
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    Eh I'm really confused Plenty just told me 11.5k hp is enough
     

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