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    Hey everyone,

    I’ve been playing for about 2 months now and got myself to lv 128 and have saved up about 2b in mesos. What would you say the average 120+ player has in meso wealth? I know that some players have been playing for years without a reset, but the prices for things seem so inflated - my next upgrade (decent facestompers) would cost almost everything I’ve saved. Any thoughts on how much money others have?
     
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    May I ask what job you are? Depending on your answer, you can get a decently scrolled weapon for a decent price. Also, have you gotten 15 attack gloves yet? Those would probably be the next bang for your buck upgrade (~800-850m). I think 2b at your stage is pretty good.

    I remember this feeling, as I was in the same boat as you. I had 2b mesos to my name as a fresh bishop, and prices of upgrades seemed daunting. I found creative ways to make money such as scrolling certain items and browsing FM (knowledge is power). Some people will tell you to make a mage and sell leech, but that is unnecessary (and in my opinion, will lead to burnout for most.) Vote, take advantage of events that reward tradeables, find your way. For reference, I have sold a grand total of 3 hours of leech, over 2 days to a friend, and never again. Perhaps @Saledor could drop some advice, as he holds a similar philosophy.

    Something I did to take the edge off that daunting feeling was to work on untradeables. There are improvements to your character that you can work on without being too funded. At level 128, I'd try to hop in a few Ellin PQ to work on my ring and earring!
     
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    Thanks for the motivation. I did get a 15 SCG for that price range, and was able to get a 121 nisrock for 300 mil (I’m a BM). I’m definitely working on ellin PQ and grinding to 140 for MoN, but a good FS or DSB seem completely unattainable without playing for another 3 or 4 months. I’d hate to rely on random luck with my saved NX to gacha for bigger payouts…
     
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    Well you can also sell APR for a consistent payout if you'd like (and might as well, since converting NX to mesos reliably will require gaching or selling APR.)

    In the meantime for MoN, perhaps consider buying an HTP. A clean HTP is pretty on par with a clean MoN for the most part, and the defense is quite nice (and STR bonus for an archer). You can get a decent MoN when you're 140 for that sweet HP bonus, but you'd probably want to grind out a semi-godly one. If I recall correctly, you can get a ~126 attack nisrock for like 700m? That is another very worthy upgrade.

    What is your cape looking like right now? I think you can score a low attack BFC for cheap.

    Yea, it's going to take time to save up for a decent FS, but I'd say getting a 7-8 Atk FS is a good achievement (2-3b). Then you can take your time upgrading your equips slowly. For example, some people will sell an item about 500m cheaper to sell it quickly, such as an 8 ATK FS at 2.5b. You can wait around for opportunities like this, which will allow you to upgrade 1 atk for 500m, as opposed to the standard midgame rate of 1 atk = 1b. If you convert some of your cash to chaos scrolls, more people will be willing to take a downgrade (like 7 atk FS + CS for 8 atk FS).

    Is this helpful? Sorry if you already knew all this. Make small goals for yourself and work toward them incrementally, enjoying the ride. If you let the pressure get to you you will burnout!
     
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    Quite helpful, and good advice. The 1 att = 1b is a great rule of thumb that makes sense in hindsight. I scored a 6 att 0 slot BFC for 225 mil, so really just a FS, deputy star upgrade and a godly bow for that sweet weapon attack scaling. Can I do HTP unwashed? I have 5.6k :( even if I were to buy VIP?
     
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    Ahh, that is quite low, and you'd probably need a party with HB to get you through even with a couple of HP equips (with guidance the run itself isn't too terrible.) I think there are parties that are willing to lend you HP equips and bring along a DK. If you need HP equips, you can pm me in game and I can loan some to you (ign: nutLeafcity) at the time you are buying service, if I'm on :)

    Can someone else weigh in on this? Is it advisable to put in the effort to grab an HTP, or should Trickshot93 wait 12 levels and purchase MoN service (which is cheaper and basically no risk of dying.)
     
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    Play the game at your own pace.

    If you compare yourself to how much wealth others have you'll never appreciate the game and its nostalgia.

    Take your time to earn mesos. Sure some upgrades are costly and may take your entire wealth at the moment, but you'll feel the difference in gains when you do get them. Plus, there is nothing wrong with spending your entire wealth on an upgrade, just start saving up all over again for your next upgrade.

    I wish you the best of luck in your gear progression my fellow jedi.

    Unless you're selling leech. Then no luck for you.
     
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    Hmm, well that would depend on your current base STR.

    Let's say you're having too much base STR, then I think it's better to go for a HTP since on average it gives you an average of 22 STR + 22 DEX = 44 stats. In that case you can spend less AP going into STR and put the rest into DEX.

    Considering that the average MoN is +5 All Stats and +3 wa, then we can assume 1wa = 5DEX, hence 3wa=15 DEX. Which means MoN gives you roughly +5 STR and +20 DEX.

    So the difference between an average MoN and an average HTP does not have a significant difference in damage since both are around +20~22 DEX, however a HTP has an advantage for having more STR, which means you can put more AP into DEX.

    I think it's better to stick with an average HTP meantime until you have comfortably made more friends who would CWK regularly, then get a godly MoN.
    In terms of comparison,
    Godly MoN > Godly HTP > Average HTP > Average MoN
     
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    I dont know whats ur definition of good , but a atk 127 Dsb cost less than 1.5b and 3 months isnt long at all, enjoy the process.
     
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    Maybe a good alternative to FS would be a nicely scrolled bowman shoes at the moment? Let's say you get a 22dex 5str shoes instead of facestompers, 27stats is pretty much 5-6 atk. The bowman shoes would cost around 4-500m instead of nearly 2b. Use the rest of your mesos to fund a better bow, just like kyoko mentioned above. 127 atk dsb instead of 121 (your current one) and a pair of shoes that might give you an additionnal 5atk (don't know your current shoes tho). it's a nice 11atk bonus in gears for around 2b. Let's not forget you can sell your current bow for the price you paid it so you're not gonna be broke either :3 Also agree with HTP! by selling your deputy star, the next pendant will cost you less than 80m to upgrade (pretty huge upgrade).
    You're also also ready to zak runs whenever you want, so upgrading your helmet for a much better one will cost you almost nothing.
    Keep enjoying the process! gl bro
     
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    Wow, thank you all for your input and helpful words. Means a lot to see so many responses in such a short amount of time. You’ve given me much to think about but I definitely intend to continue enjoying the ride. I’ll probably invest in some upgrades now with what I have to help me level to the MoN threshold since I’m so far off in terms of HP…but all great suggestions. I plan to be a super active bosser when I hit 135, so if you are ever in need of SE, feel free to PM Streitz!
     
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    Also for hp gain, try Ruel's Search for elixir (or something like that?) it's a repeatable quest that gives you 10-20hp everytime you complete it. You can do that as many time as you want 'til you get 9.6k hp! Even after that you can still do it once per day!
     
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    Thanks, but I tried the quest at my level and it’s not very viable (takes me about 30-45 minutes per 10 hp). Perhaps I can try for HTP at a higher level?
     
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    That quest will randomly reward either a +10 hp (tonic) or +20 hp (elixir). Yea, the difficulty is meant to scale with your level.. so by the time you're around 150 it should take you an average of 20 minutes per quest. You should be able to get an HTP with some HP equips and HB, but in the meantime try grinding Ellin or ToT, or other activities.
     
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    Are there any rewards from ToT that will improve my HP, or do you just mean to help me level to get the passive increase?
     
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    ToT is great EXP if you can find people to grind it out with you. This will net you some levels, small income, monster cards, and progress toward a quest medal if you want to work toward that. So yea, no direct HP gains other than from level up. I guess it was a random suggestion I threw in there :), but it's an activity that can help you progress in multiple areas simultaneously.
     
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    I didn't see it mentioned above in the thread, but did you do the Water from the Spring of Youth quest? That gives 500 hp. Ergoth's bane medal also gives 500 hp (gpq).

    Have you used any aprs yet? If you haven't, even without wearing int you should have some excess mp. You need to put one 'real' ap point into hp to start, but once you do you may be able to reset some mp -> hp. You can put the reset the real ap point from either hp or mp to dex after you're done if you want, but it's not that important. I keep the excess point in hp/mp just for convenience.
     
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    Thanks a bunch Tsue! Did do the Spring of Youth, but not too sure what GPQ is. I totally did not realize why I had to put one into HP to start the washing process, thank you for clarifying that!!!
     
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