Potential T&C Scamming Drafts and Ideas

Discussion in 'Closed' started by Evan, Jun 7, 2018.

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Do you think scamming should be added to the T&C?

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  2. No

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    15.9%
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    To sum up what i have been reading there seems like the purpose of this seems to be noone marking general merchanting as problematic on the server.
    The purpose is rather inclined towards quick selling, false bidding, bundling scams, drop trade scams, leech scams quick trade scams.

    Imo: fraud

    My opinion of
    quick selling and close windows - evidence hard to find but if multiple people and use of a mule for it maybe if multiple reports made maybe someone who had equipment for in game recording could capture evidence later.

    False bidding - i do not at all encourage bidding used by smegas, both parties has ability to screw eachother either by fake c/o or bids. Id encourage it for higher valued items say someewhere around 2b+ where u can expect an average deller to take at least 48h to sell.
    Smegas with of sale around 0,1- 1b id encourage avoiding bids rather than just name fixed a/w and if someone underbids its up to you as a seller to accept or reject the offer within reasonable time given art of item.

    Bundling scams - in my opinion not needed u cant see this sort of act very profitable it involves use of mule with one slot in shop around 9m profit for it and takes time too. In my experience this isnt huge problem its maybe 1-2 shops doing this. Problem cab be avoided with simply people who want to avoid this purchasing 1 tooth its 100k only most likely, however can include hogher sums given method used. The later one is severe and you should be quick about capturing evidence of this because that could lead to people losing billion of mesos dude to misclick and/or mispurchase although im very open for more discussion about severe bundling scams.


    Drop trade scam should be punishable, however need time and make sure people do not take action before confronting the possible scammer. Drop trade shouldnt be encourage at all in most cases but may be having to given trade with apr or tagged items but really shouldnt be done unless u can record it, also need more information and background check given the amount of value in the trade. Forum functions can be used to make thede trades safer.
    Leech scam - also requiring evidence and confrontation with seller. Of course should be done like dont smega this before confirmed ask around general opinion of other players first etc. Strongly discourage long leech sales from player without forumid or u have friend confirming hes ok.

    Adding to new discussion, more gray zone about what scam is.

    Quick trades ,-
    merching i find enjoyable but some practices i do not find okay. Such would be:
    Convincing buyer that item is worth a ceertain valued place while trying to make a quick trade by time pressuring counterpart.
    However this does not involve giving price around normal price range AND offering lower than it, giving counterpart time to think about it.

    Chalkboard heavy underpricing - as mentioned above if taru & cs around 500m advertising it to buy for 400 without mentioning something such as quick trade or smth like that because this clearly would only attract noob plater not knowing what hes selling, experienced player most likely always owl before sale ofitem and given nice stock of cs, ws or taru they know that a smega of 450-470 even would sell quick, so only noob player will fall from this and noone else, there may be people looking for quick trade of cash but very few experinced player in my opinion would sell for 400 if generall price around 500

    Buying multiple scrolls for bundle price -
    Make sure counterpart know whats going on, like many times i made trades giving a bit lower tgan market price along with an additional reduction because bmboth parts may win on this because he saves time and dont wanna stand spamming on fm, given counterpart knowing price a bit fairly reduced.
    Many players i have met this event says i dont even care ibjust want to chair gacha lul etc

    Punishment for each crime leaving for another time, not needed currently if not made clear what would be scam on server.
     
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2020

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