Regarding Chaos Scrolls / White Scrolls being dropped....

This is a fairly low rate server, if you want to make it to end game and have end game gear you are gonna have put a lot of time into it (just like everyone else), if you don't have the time to do this, or you are just simply not willing to do so, there are high rate servers that are made to suit your playstyle.

Even tho maple doesn't have direct competitive aspect (like PvP) people like to compete in other aspects (like trying to get the best range of their class, white each other in boss runs, trying to get asap to 200, fastest boss kill, to name some), heck even many people play the game only for this porpuse. Making END GAME ITEMS easy enough so that new players/casuals can make them would mean making it EXTREMLY EASY for tryhards which would mean that everyone who is willing to put time in this game is gonna be fully geared up in no time, killing all the competitive aspect of the game. Having to work hard (or sometimes just be extremely lucky) just to get +1 or +2 att at the latest part of the game is what make this competition work.

No one has given any good reason why it should be easier to achive perfect items, as I said in my previous post, if you don't feel like farming and making mesos is worth your time then settle for something else, you can do just fine without perfect items, the items that I suggested in my previous post should sum up to 8b~10b, which is by no means an amount that a casual player can't make by just playing the game and voting everyday for a couple of months.

This are your own words "Farming = grinding, again, not fun." I don't know if you like bossing, but it is really similar to grinding and it gets old really fast so my guess is that you will get bored of that too if you aren't by now, based on that let me ask you this; WHAT ARE YOU GONNA EVEN USE END GAME ITEMS FOR?!?! It seems to me that you don't even like the gameplay of this game, farming and grinding are huge part of what this (and any other mmorpg) is about. I'm sorry but if you don't even like to farm what is a solution to this 'issue' according to you? you will have to farm and grind to gear up your character regardless of how easy making end game content is.

 

It's not fun for people like OP when the entire end game economy consists of leeching, HT book selling (which people have abused in the past) and chaos / ws equipment hoarding by top players.

Implementing this gives new players;

-An income increase.
-A way to motivate them to farm / complete quests
-A damage boost / equipment upgrades for a more enjoyable item progression
-A way to compete with top players.
-A reason to party as a team in Dojo (my first idea of Dojo giving Chaos/ WS).
-A chance to boss
-Encourage maps that are always empty to actually have people playing in

The list goes on.

GMs reading this. This change can bring in more traffic. Much more $.

I'm pissed when grinding is absolutely dead-end for me and I have no way to upgrade my equipment. However, a bishop the same level as me can obtain 1 w/s or chaos in a few days. Not that I can even afford to buy anything. I can't even afford to HP wash. But what really pisses me off is;

Completely empty - popular grinding spots back in 2004 (gobies, grims, ToT) - COMPLETELY EMPTY MAPS

Fully packed - skele leeching HP washing competitive players
Fully packed - top players holding a monopoly on chaos / white scrolled items

Please do something. This is heartbreaking.

BTW I don't mind the comment that told me to stop playing. That's how he feels and I completely understand. I have already stopped playing drastically ever since I hit level 120.

What kind of server do you want GMs?

A server full of hardcore, leeching, hp washing, white scrolling competitive players?

Or a server that is friendly, balanced and full of nostalgic parties?

If the first option is what makes RMS so popular then great job and keep doing what you are doing but lose tons of casual players in the process.

If you feel like the server can be better. Then trust me and implement change.

 

Can you seriously stop posting about leech? In all honesty, I've stopped reading your posts because you always bring it back to leeching and it's just causing others to ignore your points.

 

Man you can literally make more than enough money for good gear and all your needs just saving NX and gaching.

I have pretty damn good equips IMO, and 90-95% of my income has always come from gach.

 

Bro I'm level 137 and have two perfect items. I'm an NL and have no mage character of any type... it's not that hard. Please guys find better arguments than biased garbage of what you can't do. Things are fine how they are.

 

Two perfected items requires on average around an estimated 50b+ of mesos. Can you share with us how you obtained 50 billion worth of assets at lvl 137 so that the rest of up can keep up please sir?

I'm very sorry sir, not everyone shits mesos like you do I'm afraid.

Edit: After looking at your profile, I realized that you are quite famous in RMS. Sorry for responding to your comment like a lowly peasant. Obviously you are too powerful in the server to respond to a filthy casual like myself. Continue to bless us with your God-like damage while white-lining ever single enemy you encounter.

 

It's also that there is nothing essential about having godly/perfect items on this server IMO, or even good items for that matter. You can get by with absolute shit. Its really not that competitive; you're always going to get into bossruns, you can PQ all the way to 72, doing more damage doesn't effect how fast you leech (lol), etc.

If this is about nostalgia, I remember way back the first time I got a attack WG I felt pro af. Here you can pick a 6/7/8 attack for pocket change.

It's something to work for, if you want it. If it wasn't hard to get godly/perfect stuff I probably would have stopped playing long ago.

 

Ahaha dude you have serious issues. Psychiatrist recommended

 

Yeah I have issues because I want players to have an easier time farming so we can expand the community. You enjoy the server so idk why you are posting.
My issue isn't that it is hard, but rather that it is UNFAIR for newer players. The economy is unbalanced towards new players.
Please read my previous posts if you have time.

 

real life is unbalanced towards new players

 

I agree it very much is.
Why should an online game where people go to relax also be unbalanced?

 

We've said this before, we're playing on a nostalgic server because we like it unbalanced. If you want everyone to have absurdly OP gear and leveling to be really easy no matter how long you've played the game, then go to either GMS or a high rate server. Life in Maple used to be hard, and it's hard now. There have been people which have asked for a 1/1/1 server parallel to this one to make it even harder. The fact of the matter is that you don't seem to understand what it means to be a nostalgic server, and you're trying to change this one to your liking.
The market is already flooded with WS and Chaos scrolls. If you are unable to buy them, there is a perfectly free way to try and obtain them yourself, and you only need to be level 50. There is no reason to make them easier to obtain.

 

Dude, it's SUPPOSED to be hard. It's not as if not being able to afford really good stuff limits what you can do in the game. It's not like you can't afford potions, or your damage is weak so nobody wants your for bosses.

So yeah, the damage of someone who sits in the FM 12 hours a day versus someone who grinds/farms/sells leech/bosses for 12 hours a day, will be less. Idk what the problem is here.

Maple is one of the EASIEST games i can think of. Lol, for BOSS FIGHTS you literally hold down one key the whole time. the second highest lvl boss in the game DOESN'T EVEN DO DAMAGE.

Maple is just a time sink of a game, and if even that wasn't rewarding, I don't think anyone would bother to play.

Should a 90+ attack claw exist? Sure. Should it be expensive? Yes. Should they be easy to obtain? No. Should everyone be running around with them? No. Will I ever get one? Probably not.

 

Leoye123, the OP is correct and you are incorrect. Nothing is being hyperinflated. You are restating the same wrong argument over and over and I will from this point be deleting and warning you every time you do it because it is spam and instigatory at this point; it's almost as if you're doing it for the sole purpose of getting a response.

This topic will be closed if nothing new continues to be introduced from the last one. In the last 34 posts, nothing new has. There's a bunch of people saying that new players have it hard, and there are a bunch of players saying that it's supposed to be. Let me state this explicity; staff agrees with the stance that the early game should be difficult. Making the early game easy makes the server easy, which as older players will know, is why we had a wipe two years ago. We do not want that to happen again.

Do not take this as us being unappreciative of different peoples' standpoints; I'm just trying to say that this thread makes a suggestion that we turned down for a specific reason, and in all the posts since, there's been about two posts that actually tried to propose meaningful alternatives and ways to be constructive, and about a hundred posts whining about leech.

Keep this on topic, keep this constructive, or it'll be closed. If you mean to post in this thread, consider what OP said and then consider my bold text above, and then decide if what you want to say is going to be helpful or not. If it's not, please do not post.

 

To OP, I don't see why they should drop from HT. HT already drops some of the most expensive shit in the game.

If we want to spread the wealth around, if anything, add better drops for bosses available to lower levels like Pianus or Pap. Especially Pianus because this OG boss is basically ignored. Pap because now that it can only be done twice a day, it wouldn't just get abused (maybe the twice a day limit will push Pap book drop prices up? hopefully).

 

Not everything should be easily obtainable. Putting time in and working towards a goal is a major factor in the satisfaction one feels after achieving it. If you can't/don't want to put the time in to earn the things you want it doesn't mean that the game should change to suit you specifically. The reason I like this server is because it doesn't just hand you everything and it doesn't keep moving the goalposts with the power creep that comes with suggestions like yours being implemented.

 

Alright I've read everyones comments and do appreciate the feedback/counter-points to my arguments. It appears to me that the only way to essentially farm mesos in this server is to grind to a high level and find a bossing party. Thats my problem I have with the server. It just so happens that it relates to how expensive WSs/Chaos Scrolls are. I guess I'm looking at it the wrong way. We need more ways to earn mesos as oppose to just bossing.

I will add though, that prices of WSs/Chaos Scrolls stay stagnant at 300m regardless of demand is because the people who boss every day OR sell leech every day hoard them. It's not because theres just a huge demand and everyones buying them as they see them. If that were the case, you'd see an adjustment every couple of weeks as we get more players on the server. I never see WSs sell for 330m. Its as if 300m is the cut-off for the people hoarding them. I personally wouldn't be surprised if some players had stacks of WSs or Chaos Scrolls. Thats a problem I feel should be brought into the light. Again, this is only speculation, but to me just appears to be how the markets been working.

 

You seriously need to stop talking about leech rofl. It's not about leech. It's because people put time and EFFORT into the server. There are more ways to earn mesos as opposed to just bossing. It's called gaching. Or merching. Some people have tons of money without selling leech once. I have made money without selling a single hour of leech. And in case you haven't noticed, there is a high demand for WS right now. I see people smega'ing B>WS every single day and I have seen some selling for 330m. Please stop expecting people to hand you money and make it easier for you when they've put in exponentially more hours into this game than you and please stop talking about leech. The prior thread was closed for that reason, why are you trying to repeat the same thing?

 

I feel like you generally didnt read my post at all. I provided reasoning for why the price of WSs stay stagnant. I stated 2 reasons that people earn mesos. Selling leech is one of them, bossing the other. I'm not even hindering on leech, as I said, I dont give a flying fuck about leech. You can sell it all day for all I care. If theres other ways to earn mesos as opposed to those 2 reasons aside from using your 8knx/day on gach or attempting to merch in a stagnant FM like this servers, then please, enlighten me. The next logical way is by training and selling eqps/earning mesos from drops. Any way else? I feel like you're just here for the drama. Someone mentions the word leech and you immediately crawl up someones spine. It's fine to talk about leech. I was merely saying its a method people use to make mesos. I wasn't complaining about the tactic... like you make it seem.

 

Hey look, another one. -shakes head-

There are plenty of ways to make money here. Farm minibosses for NX to gach. Vote daily for NX to gach. Sell AP Resets or Safety Charms instead of Gaching. Do APQ and farm Onyx Apples for easy money. Farm rare scrolls at uncommon locations to sell. Do LMPQ to farm Red Ciders for money. Play the open market and merchant for your income. The lost goes on.

You have listed the easiest and most straightforward way to farm mesos. It is not the only method of making mesos, and what needs to be stated is that anyone, regardless of how they made their mesos, may want to buy these White Scrolls or Chaos Scrolls.

This thread doesn't even seem to be about Chaos or White Scrolls, its about the general misconception that low leveled/new/casual players can't make money.