[retired] New New Community Blacklist

Nice lie, when you were on her buddylist for a while before she deleted you for crying.
Secondly, Manon is part of the "Making the Secret Medicine for Transformation" Quest to get into Horntail. You're trying to blacklist someone for trying to get a quest done that is essential to one of the bosses in the game?
Lastly, Karayan was trying to Achilles30 Skill Book, which isn't only dropped from Manon, but is also dropped from Lilinof in Temple of Time.

 

I mean, ultimately Carney is right. The boss is free for everybody, and the people who HT aren't any more entitled to it than some casual is. Regardless of how (poorly) he's handling it/conducting himself after the fact, his point remains true and the person who came at that guy for killing Manon (no matter what his reasoning was) claiming to be entitled to it because he/she needs it for HT is in the wrong.

I just don't understand how it couldn't be resolved through basic communication like normal human beings though..

A "Don't kill manons we HT peoplez r speshul only 4 us okai??"
B "I'm allowed to just like you are, best of luck have a great day" (de-escalate and remove yourself from the situation, don't argue with them-you know you are right and they are wrong and that's all it boils down to)
A "Ok wutever I'm bitter but bye"

If they were to continue to pester you (via whisper, following you, or whatever) it would only require a simple report to end that. All of this back and forth is so unnecessary for such a small (non)issue. Are we not adults?!??!!?


Edit: It appears the story was fabricated by Carney and he does not seem very credible or level-headed. My sincere apologies to the person who was wrongfully accused (XplicitAbi I believe) and for my mistake in believing Carney's post.

 

Thank you. I have told XplicitAbi she can solved this by just talking to Karayan, but no. she decided to smega and blacklist him immediately.. she is blacklisting a innocent person. so here i am blacklistng XplicitAbi because i believe its wrong for her to behave like that.

 

Well here are the facts about that whole situation. Around reset i was Leading a PT for HT, so i was looking for a manon for my party. Once we couldn't find manon we found Karayan, and i had asked him if he killed all the manon. Which he replied to me saying "Yes" I didn't have a problem with that, nor i started talking "shit" like peanutz claims. All i did was Smega saying "Karayan killed all the manon" I never said anything more or less than that in smega. I never smegad saying, blacklist karayan whatsoever. I told Karayan to be careful because some people could be petty and try to blacklist you for killing all manon. Which in the past was told to me. I never told him i was going to blacklist him Nor i ever smegad about it. Peanutz never asked me to talk to karayan to resolve anything like he claims. Meanwhile this was happening Peanutz was smeging about how its a public boss, Which i complete agree with. I never objected to that, I pmed him to explain what actually had happen but he wouldn't listen to me in whisper, he continued to just stick to "its not your boss" its public etc. But i never was arguing that fact, i was just explaining what had happen. Eventually when i realized he wasn't going to listen to me, i deleted him from my BL. That is when he started to pm me about how He hates me (in-spite him saying here he doesn't even know me) and also started to accuse me of being a scammer. This is when i told him to stop whispering me. Since than i have said absolutely nothing or about this situation on smega or to him. Yet i have seen him for past few days constantly smegaing about killing all manons, etc just to get a rise, and mocking me. As far as me adding him in BL, i was looking into buying his specs, but that eventually didn't work out. So i kept him in BL, not because he's an SE and i need him for HT LOL. It just sad that a lot of lies are being spread about me, by him.
Honestly this is everything that happened that night nothing more, He never asked me to talk to karayan to resolve anything. Nor i ever said Manon was my boss.

This is what happened that night, there isn't any more truth than this. His claims for me harassing him etc, in a way for past few days he's been harassing me via smegaing about manon etc and mocking me. Yet i have decided to let it be, All i ask is for the truth not any of the fabricated lies.

Thanks.

 

Even as someone who is able to do HT daily (huge thanks to my friends), I'm still going to say that you guys who keep getting triggered when people kill Manon need to get off your high horses.

The quest design for Dragon Elixir is just bad, something could be done about it, but are you going to ask the new player to "stop hunting manons" when he wants skillbooks like Achilles 30, Phoenix 30, Guardian 30? Some are exclusive to only manon, and tbh it doesnt matter if it's exclusive or not. They can hunt whatever they like, and this game is not just catered to endgame players who do HT daily.

Few months back someone wanted to buy Phoenix 30, and when his friend offered to help, the friend got slapped with a ''ez blacklist'' instead. How fking condescending is that. If you guys are that concerned perhaps you can make a feedback thread tweaking the system, but it's ridiculous to blacklist players killing Manons for their own purpose (be it energizers, concerto, sb or even the measly nx it gives).

Edit: as I saw what XplicitAbi has posted as well, i'm not targetting her, just those who are triggered about people killing Manons.

 

I am allowed to smega anything i want and i believe i did not violate any rules.
You have mentioned i was mocking you and harassing you? i have not mention your name in any of my smegas, you are just assuming i am "mocking you.
I understand you are very angry that you cannot find manon. it does not mean you can behave like that.
just because you are "rich" or "popular" does not mean you can treat others like trash.
You were argueing very heavily with a lot of innapproiate language.
I am stateing facts and i am telling lies Okay.
i really don't care if you deleted me, all i said is "well, googbye" after you deleted me. We both know you added me for your own advantage.
i do not want to carry this further because you are stressing me out really badly.
Its better if you leave me alone.
You are the one who started the drama.
your use of language when talking to someone is really bad. its actually harrassment.
I don't believe i have did anything wrong or telling lies?
i am simply argueing your toxic and unacceptable behaviour. I think its better if you leave me alone.
i see that you are always starting drama with everyone. Its not good for you.
Its not good for me too because you are stressing me out for no reason, i am simply defending a innocient guy
I dont have time to defend people, you start A LOT of drama.
Thanks, i think i am done with you. i am closing this case
Good luck in future
You should applogize to Karayan in game. You blacklisted a player for hunting manon. come on.. Karma will bite you

 

i agree with this. i occasionally go kill all the manons that spawn when im bored. what i realised these past few times is that there are usually 18/19 manons up. ye u might need it for the quest. but no one is forcing u to ht daily. the manons are there. just that the ppl who keep whining abt no manons only find them when they need to run ht. if running ht is so mpt to u, u shld be actively trying to find manon instead of only going to find them when u hv to go. if u HAVE to run ht, and u KNOW that u got no more elixirs, then why tf wld u only wait till u need to run then hunt. thats a disaster waiting to happen. in any case, i dont think that anyone shld be blacklisted for killing manons. btw, i dun feel ht is all that important. there are other ways to gain exp as well. personally, my drk has only run 1 HT run outside of BlackCats HT that lasted to see drops and im at 189 right now. Pap n shaolin daily are good enuf for me and maybe an occasional zak/krex.

btw R>Manon we hunt manons for gisers, not fun

 

Alright.


Please keep it civil... got rid of the unnecessary/aggressive posts.

 

@Don I think we're going to need your opinion regarding this matter.

 

My friend SereneGrace used to hunt manons for Guardian 30 for around one week. Real upstanding guy.

 

Do you even understand this part of the forum? I don't think what you trying to achieve here actually applies on the "blacklist" section, even that Abi smegad to blacklist that person, she didn't post it on here, and you did? It's not even a necessary post for "community blacklist", if you have a problem against that person, or you don't like his/her behavior, avoid them, take it or leave it! Not like she did something bad to the community, that needs to be blacklisted. I am personally not taking any sides, it's just I think your post is so unnecessary. In addition, it's none of your business though.

 

Think you missed one with the all caps rage

Anyway, about this manon situation... Do people really think there's an actual blacklist for said "Manon Hunters"? I can safely say no. It's a joke, there's no need to get so worked up about it.

It's a community, everyone has objectives in this game. I honestly don't think people kill manons just to grief others or do it out of malicious intent. Be considerate, learn to work together and everyone benefits.

And of course I don't find this whole saga blacklistable.

 

you guys doing it all wrong
just blame sids

 

I am also aware that there is no such "manon hunter" blacklist, but manon hunting other than for the purpose of dragon elixirs/HT are unnecessarily frowned upon in this game, and it shouldn't be played down as a "joke". As you said it is a community; when people are wrongly excluded from it, they suffer from repercussions that they do not deserve.. This toxic culture gotta stop~

All I hope is that any player hunting manon for their own reasons shouldn't need to sneak around and feel like they just committed the greatest taboo.

And lastly as Tect said, players who know they will be doing daily HTs shouldn't wait until they need it. I'm not so badly affected as I usually stock my elixirs, but honestly I would blame the quest design; locking the entry to endgame boss under an area boss that takes 3 hours to respawn when other people need it for Gen pre-quest or Skillbooks is just... awful, nostalgia or not

 

So you know that Karayan's actions can have possible negative outcomes from other players, so you enable it by snitching to EVERYONE in the server You may not have DONE the actual deed but you basically led anyone familiar with the culture to this conclusion wouldn't you agree?

 

When I played hero in 2017 I used to hunt griffies so people wouldn’t be able to job advance (I forgot about secret spell scroll).

 

i used to hunt manon so ppl cldnt run ht. then i realised people werent lazy yet so rip my hero no one to carry it at krex

 

Its very simple. XplicitAbi smega and blacklists Karayan for hunting manon and i am simply defending karayan .
the story was not fabricated, she was the one crying and starting the drama.
Anyway. I do not wish to associate with This person XplicitAbi anymore. From what i see. she likes to start drama with EVERYONE.
i don't have time for this bullshit. she can do whatever she wants now.

her use of language and smegaing Karayan was not needed. She can simply just talk to him.
She was very upset and angry. I do not believe it was a joke.
I don't care if you or anyone is friends with her. what she did was wrong, and it needs to be said.
do not reply to me because i am not going to care anymore. she likes to start drama . i have no time for this bullshit

 

The only person deserving of a spot in a manon hunter blacklist is @Tect

 

This is the last time i'm going to address this, I never smegad saying Blacklist Karayan, if you have proof of me doing so please post it here for everyone. My Smega read "Karayan killed all Manons..." There were other people after who smegad saying to blacklist but it never came from me. Also Please stop lying and making false accusation / narrative to have people believe i was upset or was using vulgar language with Karayan. Only conversation between him and i was me asking him if he killed all Manon, than me telling him to be careful becasue there are people who could be petty and try to blacklist you for doing so. I had no further conversation with him, if you claim i was using vulgar language to him please post your proof but aside from that stop lying. Also the conversation between you and i in whisper was also very civil. Neither one of us was using any profanity whatsoever. So Again please stop with the fabricated stories and false narratives. I was never angry because after that 5mins of situation i was in HT with my party, i completely had moved past it. It was you who continued to smega since that time and create this drama. So like i said, stop with false accusation of me being upset/using profanity with karayan etc.

Thanks,