In Discussion Content Rose Garden Nerf/Adjustments

A real applicable for sure adjustment to rg besides all others is fix the "no more bees available" msg, sometimes even when you are done getting bees you wont get the msg til like few mins later, the system makes you spawn a bee to show you said msg instead of just giving this msg out right when you collect 20 bees

 

The bees make a sound cue when they spawn so just put the sound on to not miss bees. The spawn and drop rates are fine. I'm at like 35 cgs and haven't gotten fewer than 20 bees in weeks. Just get the bee when it spawns. Sounds like a thread full of skill issues.

 

I'm 200 mm, have less than 35 cgs, can mob and kill quickly, and I've gotten 14 bees once in 30 levels and rarely more than 10, sound on, wiping the whole time. That's not a skill issue or lack of trying. I've gone 9 minutes without seeing one bee spawn, wiping the map clean the whole time, that should never happen. That's not a me thing

 

I've seen them ingame: they are a DrK. I haven't played the class (closest I have is paladin) but it has everything on paper to be probably the best rose gardening class. That blanket insult at the end was absolutely unnecessary, but is hardly surprising based on the one interaction I've had with that player.

My MM is skipping bonus until he gets 6 target Dragon's Breath. I get you.

The chat notification is one of the most innocuous suggestions in the thread. I use 4 other classes in RG which are good to great at it (good multi-target, big range bee aggro skills) but it would still be less of a headache if I could verify I've caught all bees every time there is a spawn. And yes, I have the sound on and I'm not watching netflix or looting stoppers at the same time.

 

Dark Knight is probably the easiest of the three Warriors in the bee stage due to Dragon Roar. You can be able to gather bottom mobs while on platforms and grab bees from afar on a relatively short cooldown compared to Pally's HH. I rarely have to move far on Drk and spend more of my time on mobs than chasing bees unlike my Hero/Pally. One Drk player told me they switch to Polearm (surfboard) for bees too.

 

honestly valid criticisms. im working on being less shitty online. yes, i do play drk, and yes that class is one of if not the easiest to do RG on. class-non-specific bee hunting things:
-bees seem to last just under a minute, when they spawn i drop everything and backtrack to catch them and pick up my rotation wherever i get the bee
-if you struggle to keep track of 20 bees, add the nets to a hotkey in the bottom right of the screen and try to start at a round number like 100. that way you can see if you have 85 nets left, you have 5 more bees to catch.
-i hate paying attention as much as the next person, but the sound cues solve the double spawn issue so i only play with sound in RG bon
-i cant imagine swapping to pole arm for bon, since you are often attacking fewer than 5 mobs unless in bottom row. using fury on the spear is a good extra reach to aggro mobs/bees tho

 

Since nobody has pointed it out: the aggro changes have somehow made the boss maintain Defense Up for most of the fight which makes most classes (only mages, heroes and DrKs are not affected) waste an extra minute or so. Can this be reverted somehow?

 

disclaimer: im using a screenshots folder to test this so no real bees were harmed in the process of making this

have a bit of an OCD in me so every time when im not focused and miss a bee spawn im forced to turn the remainders into hp vials otherwise everything in my universe would be misaligned for me so i made this



this can serve as a second layer of confirmation for bees spawn (first is always your own eyes/ears) and provide a timer for the remaining time (not really sure if its 30 seconds or closer to 1 minute as lucy mentioned), also can tweak this to help you count the total number of bees that have already spawned if people really do need that because i personally count with the number of nets left

still somewhat of a rough work but it should be able to also detect close-double-spawns as long as they are not spawned together perfectly (one after another is okay), only thing thats left to do now is for real-time testing and a couple friends volunteered to do it but it would be nice if a staff can confirm that this kinda tool is allowed

 

bro major in rocket science...

 

Since I can't find info on this anywhere, does anyone have anecdotal info on the average number of totems it takes to get a WS/CS (or WS/CS/BWG/Taru) from LHC Gach exchange? I've heard to expect a ws/cs anywhere from 1:20 to 1:40 exchanges

 

iirc expected average is 1.6 green lines per 1000 totems