That is always the case, although I would like there to be no level limits to make it more competitive! who knows so I think some will be calm
Ya, that's about what I figured you could muster up. You can @ me when you have a real argument. Also, looking at all the alternative ways Matt (THE OWNER OF THE PRIVATE SERVER) has added to get HP, and the fact that his main character is unwashed, I'd wager that he wants alternatives to the meta, but what do I know, I just crap out my mouth xD
If Royal's stance is that ranged classes like SE and NL are not meant to do bosses like Toad/Auf in their lifetime even with hb, just like how Arch Mages will never be viable in bossing, then it would make sense what HP washing optional means. Not optional if you do want to participate in ALL boss contents on a single character. Not optional if you're a drk who wants to output max damage on hard-hitting bosses. Not optional if you want the luxury and convenience of not needing to have your boss runs always be dependant on whether hb is available. It is fine if this is how the GMs want it to be. Maybe if they did acknowledge this, then perhaps the whole "HP washing is optional" debate can finally end. And we can start giving out better advice to newcomers about whether or not HP washing is suited for them. Let them make fully informed decisions and not just throw "optional" out there like it's not going to make a significant impact to their experience later on in the game. The reason most players HP wash is not because they hate themselves, they want the convenience, they want to be able to do all the bosses, it's the same advice they'd give themselves if they were a newbie to the server.
This is just a healthy debate, nobody was disrespectful until you said I was crapping out of my mouth, which I'm still laughing at. "Muh GMS" is targeted towards all those arguments in general, not just yours, as a lot of arguments boil down to just that. You literally made the exact same assumption based on what Matt has or has not done in the server, so I matched you with better evidence. I haven't attacked anybody, just stated my arguments very plainly and given evidence as to why a particular point is incorrect in my opinion, and waited for rebuttals that never came. I haven't called anybody any names or insinuated I was smarter than anybody else, or anything of that nature. There is no reason to feel personally attacked and start spewing ad hominem. You can try high roading me, but your argument thus far is non-existent and you've yet to back it up with anything whatsoever. You are the one who quoted me and began this discussion in the first place, telling me to leave if I don't like it. If you feel attacked for having a debate with somebody, I don't know what to tell you. Some people are gonna disagree with you and back up their opinion. Now, lets move past this pissing match and get back to the issue at hand; why do you think there should not be any other alternative methods to gain HP?
How about we talk about the skill changes as well? I support most of the changes proposed besides changing atk speed of all 2h maces. Some peaple will say heros doesnt need the buff on enrage but man they do need more usefull skills. i feel like you are done with your hero at lv 150, max brandish, ACA , Stance and you are pretty much done, nothing else is really necessary or incentive you to lv up and put more points on a skill.
I agree having useless skills sucks, and Hero especially has a ton of them, but we gotta watch that power creep too. The attack buffs are still useful in scenarios where you don't wanna use attack pots. Skills like that were probably a lot more useful when attack pots weren't so easily obtained.
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/ore-rework-and-hp-wash.149782/#post-887392 I made a suggestion of re-utilizing assetts we already have in the game's base that we could utilize. What honestly do you use garnet/sapphire ores for? Not much. Could be an HP washing recipe. One big thing I want changed is to make stance 100%, if I were to be greedy I'd say to also ignore stun. I made a meme thread about it but honestly I can't think of an explanation why you'd add a 10% variable there. Warriors are kind of mid-tier damage, having that extra 10%+stun ignore would close the gap on dps classes without actually breaking the game.
Best way to enjoy royal is vote for 1 years get 2.920.000 nx= 941Apr=16b if Apr17m Ea. Sell the 400apr get 6.8b worth of mesos. 540apr(SelfAdjustDependsOnUrJob) left for washing, 6.8b for int gear and buying leech. Create a new character start buying leech washing until level 140-150. Enjoy bossing once u reach 13kHp/18kHp/30kHp. Bossing is still the best way to level in royals, i rather spend 2hours for bossing krex+shao+zakum+pap, than leveling 4 hours at random high level places but getting less exp.. Thats y so many complaining becuz they dun hav enuff hp for bossing, and nobody need them....(Specially horntail it might cost a fail runs...) Hp, damage, Mule(hs/se/si/hb/crash/sed/echo) is what ppl need in bossing pt, if u dun have any of these then u need frens.
@NTR you creeping here!! y u not online?? ontopic: the ore suggestion and other alternative ways to add HP to the HP pool through character progression seem legitimate and fun. it just shouldn't involve tradeable items as that takes away the major journey and actual gameplay!
Did you really need to quote everything except the "xD"? #feelsbadman Meanwhile I'm enjoying my popcorn
agree with the drk knight , make DK's achilles 20~25% instead of 15% for other warrior classes or bump berserk % to 60% HP cause, any class can reach full potential if your rich enough to wash, but DK has this 50% limit is like nothing in the world can surpass light speed, no matter what you do
There's a big difference between lessening the severity and allowing people who didn't wash and are high level some ways to get more HP, and changing the meta. The goal was never to get rid of washing, or even create an alternative (one which if did happen I think people underestimate the time commitment required for it to be adequate to replace the current burden/effort) I also wanted to point out Matt ditched us in Unwashed but I think you knew that lol. LF> Evan™ class
I don't really want to change the meta, I think HP washing in its current form should be the highest investment/highest reward method of gaining HP. What I would like to see is a progression system in which players can earn the bare minimum HP to do bosses within ~10 levels of the minimum by doing easier bosses that don't require washing. I might spin this off into its own thread as this one got derailed a bit. I completely understand the amount of work it would require and seriously appreciate everything you guys do, but I don't want to suppress discussions on things because it might be hard to code/implement. But hes main guild now! Still living that #Unwashed life. LF> Custom Jake class
