{Suggestion} Shorten the map owner time

You're not getting it, no one wants to just find another map. If people did this ksing would not be an issue.

 

From what I've read, there has been no good reason for us to reduce the time and a lot of good reasons for it to stay 3min. In fact, lowering to time to 90 seconds seems like it would bring about more problems than being helpful. Also considering the fact that you need at least 2 minutes of SS showing a ks report, and to explain that it's against the rules, I feel like 3 minutes is a good time.

On another note, I can't go to the bathroom in 90 seconds. I actually care to wash my hands.

 

Too bad? Of course no one wants to find another map, but when the best maps are as packed as they are, you won't have much of a choice. Reducing the ~mapowner timer might make it easier to grab a map from someone who had to stop for some random reason, but it won't make the maps any less full or contested. I don't even attempt to go to Skeles/GS2/Ulu 2/You name it because it's not worth wasting time trying to get a map in those places when alternatives exist for every level range (Yes, they do). Sure, the alternatives aren't AS good, but so what?

Sorry if I come off as rude, but I have a "deal with it" mentality with this kind of issue. GMS was no different, aside from no mapowner and more KSing.

 

I assume you sell leech. So you lost credibility in my eyes.

Stuff happens, leave it at that. It should not be the servers responsibility to cover the mess ups people have in their life which is what the 3min time has done. lowering the time would put more responsibility on the player.

I wouldn't have posted this at all if I didn't take my own advice. I'm simply stating that 3 mins is too long. In popular map areas it is a waste of time. A quicker map owner change would probably shut things up faster and I want to see if this is true. However I do understand that popular maps will always have conflict, A map is a public space that no one should own for any length of time. It would be nice if people would just cc as the gm's ask, but that won't happen. Adding mini dungeons to those maps would actually solve a lot of ksing problems, but there was a thread on mini dungeons mutilple times already.

 

Aside from npcing and bathroom breaks what other good reasons are their? Everyone ese seems to just want the map because they deserve it. If a map is a public space, how does one person deserve it more than anyone else?

 

If that was directed at me, then your assumption was wrong. I just listed the first few popular maps I could think of that are likely to be full and even need ~mapowner in the first place. For you to bring that up unprovoked makes me wonder if leeching is what really bothers you more than map ownership time itself.

 

It was mean for seanc in reaction to how he responded . I forgot to delete the thingy above in my response. I also give leech myself and I'm not against it when it comes to helping those more difficult classes gain levels faster. I'm only against the whole profiting off of leeching because it is just another greed game. I see leeching should be free as you can make good money of the drops in the map you leech on. Unless its below level 70..

 

Because they got there first and obtained map ownership so they reserve the right to use the map however they want. Other good reasons about keeping mapowner this way would be the fact that it won't cause as many ksing problems as your suggestion does. People would feel harassed because someone would be coming by constantly in an attempt to steal it. You can't even npc a full inventory within 90 seconds, it usually takes me the full 3 minutes, or close to it, even with a door. I shouldn't have to feel harassed on my map with people constantly coming in or having to worry about someone taking my map when I am npcing. If I dc for any reason, 3 minutes is a legitimate amount of time that gives me a fair chance to reclaim my map. If I can't get back within 3 minutes I don't feel cheated where as sometimes it takes 1min just for the client to close and then another minute to open. If you have an issue with leeching, it shouldn't have anything to do with the mapowner or you should have made it clear from the beginning. As it is, I still haven't seen any good arguments as to why we should reduce the mapowner time.

 

1. I should have made it clear that this should only apply to popular/desirable maps. I can agree that slipped my mind while trying to think of reasons.
2. Your reasons for keeping the maps are mostly personal. Going to the bathroom is a must, buying potions is a must. Those are the only good reasons. Otherwise why should you have a map for 3 mins. Dcing will always be a thing. People need to get used to that already. If your worried about losing a map, ask a guildie to hold it while you are gone. If your not in a guild, ask some of the random players who come in to hold the map for you. offer them the map when your finished, congrats, you made a new friend too
3. Ksing will always happen regardless of any stipulations put in place and players who get annoyed have every right to make a report. Why not get more gms to monitor these maps more often. You have 800 plus players on a day on a 14 channel server. Time to hire some more gms, so the report abuse section isn't filled to the top. Even better summer time is around the corner, so more people will be playing.
4. If its "my map" then it should be "my" responsibilty to maintain it. If your getting harrassed then move to a new area or report the player. That whole 2 minute of SS time is just dumb. It should be 30 seconds. Ksing isn't something thats difficult to spot. Type ~mapowner, take 3 screenshots every ten seconds of the person who is ksing, give the name and all that other stuff, and put it in the report abuse section.

For nostalgic community based server, there a lot of I, me and my going around.

 

If I may be honest, I don't see this suggestion becoming anywhere near feasible in the state that it has been presented in.

In my original reply I asked if the original poster could please think through the proposed suggestion completely namely by listing all the pros vs the cons. After having read all the replies that followed after that one, I have yet to see any of what I have requested back in the replies given. With that said, I do not believe this thread will make any constructive progress any time soon and would rather choose to lock this thread than to let an endless chaotic discussion be continued. A part of my reasoning for this choice is because I can sense a hostile tension between some of the participants of this discussion, which expresses itself in rude remakes towards one another.