Class/Skill Awaiting Developer Input Summon autoloot enabled when they dont kill the mob alone

Discussion in 'Accepted' started by LichWiz, Oct 22, 2022.

  1. LichWiz
    Offline

    LichWiz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2016
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    4,412
    IGN:
    IronShichika
    Level:
    200
    Guild:
    Ironman
    Suggestion: Make item drop unlootable by pet if a summon skill has dealt 90% or more of the
    total hp of the mob, instead of the current system of "if summon last hits, item become unpickable by pet".

    recently, in LHC, mages that cleared mobs with only mage attacks recieved a drop penalty. it started as a kill check, but was changed to 90% damage dealt.
    can we use this same ruling for summon spells with pet loot logic?
    After the change to pet looting with summon skills was made, people kept using it for semi afk farming (despite them being the main target of the nerf), but the place that was negativity affected from it more was in normal grinding. If the summon is not the one that solos the mob, why should the loot be locked out of autoloot? it just discourages using summons in grinding
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2023
    jinlee95, Riv, CreamGoddess and 8 others like this.
  2. DickDann
    Offline

    DickDann Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2021
    Messages:
    665
    Likes Received:
    2,216
    Location:
    18-18
    IGN:
    DLCKDANN
    Guild:
    KERNING
    Do you mean the pet won't auto-loot if the summon spells deals 90%+ of damage in LHC?
    Sounds good.
     
    Tect likes this.
  3. LichWiz
    Offline

    LichWiz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2016
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    4,412
    IGN:
    IronShichika
    Level:
    200
    Guild:
    Ironman
    mostly in general, If summons aren't used as the sole damage dealer, then pet pickup will work. i just used LHC's recent changes as an example on how to implement it
     
  4. PinaColadaPirate
    Offline

    PinaColadaPirate Donator

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2022
    Messages:
    234
    Likes Received:
    595
    Gender:
    Male
    IGN:
    VolleyFire
    Guild:
    Tenacity
    I second this idea.
    For those who didn't notice, it seems like the anti-afk-loot mechanisms are designed so that if the summon "last hit" the mob, the pet won't loot its drops, rather than by "determining how much damage the summon had dealt to the mob".

    This mechanism is slightly annoying when I'm doing daily pap on sair.
    I usually cast octopus when pap goes to sleep for extra damage. It's funny how whenever my octopus last hit pap, my pets just sit there and watch me loot the drops myself...
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2022
    noobgamer97 likes this.
  5. Kung
    Offline

    Kung Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2018
    Messages:
    557
    Likes Received:
    626
    IGN:
    Schnegge
    I assume its code-wise much less expensive to simply check for last hit instead of keeping track of the % of dmg dealt. % of dmg dealt is probably only recorded per player and not separated further? However last hit is obviously recordable. I just assume its easier to check for last hit than % of dmg dealt when it comes to summons?

    Other than that I would like to second OPs feedback as well.
     
  6. LichWiz
    Offline

    LichWiz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2016
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    4,412
    IGN:
    IronShichika
    Level:
    200
    Guild:
    Ironman
    That's what I thought initially as well, but it's clearly doable once I saw the change they did to mages in LHC. I wouldn't have suggested it otherwise :sammymug:.
    If they can tell between an ultimate damage source and a non ultimate damage source, and determin it dealt 90% of the damage to the mob, then why not summons, which are technically also skills?
     
    Kung and noobgamer97 like this.
  7. LichWiz
    Offline

    LichWiz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2016
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    4,412
    IGN:
    IronShichika
    Level:
    200
    Guild:
    Ironman
    it's been half a year, i still think the pet pickup from summons is awkward in its current state, so... bump ~f8
    (also edited main post to be a bit more clear)
     
  8. Baconfry
    Offline

    Baconfry Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2015
    Messages:
    297
    Likes Received:
    570
    Gender:
    Male
    Country Flag:
    IGN:
    Hachimitsu
    Level:
    169
    Guild:
    Versatile
    While we're at it, make it so Gaviotia doesn't count as a "summon" at all for autoloot. For obvious reasons
     
    Graces and jinlee95 like this.

Share This Page