This game has a large barrier to entry

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    Go with a DK. There's one in like 80% of HTs because not many people have the luxury of washing to the point where they can tank everything.
     
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    You just had prove the point of the author. If you're a warrior and not HP washing, the only class to choose from is DK. If you want to play others class and getting stronger and HP washing and stuff then you have to main a bishop to farm. The circle is around strong classes in v62 and its not a good thing.

    I'm not trying to complain about anything, it's just a suggestion and I hope our server will choose the best path to take.
     
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    The original game wasn't made for washing, it was for party play. You were supposed to go with a DK. I don't understand why people are complaining about having to wash when it's a luxury they get for playing on a private server with FREE nx. People in GMS were able to do HT without HP washing and so can anyone here.

    If you don't want to put in the extra mile to be able to go on 100% of runs, then don't. If you wanna use that time and money, then do.

    You don't have to wash to join ht. Many people do not wash and ht just fine.


    Also, many unwashed heroes HT just fine. Heroes are the easiest to HT with because they aren't required to keep their health below 40% to maximize their damage, unlike dks.

    Honestly tired of people saying you have to make a bishop. If you don't want to, that's fine. People do it because it's the most efficient, but if it's not for you, then you do you. It's not impossible to do it without a bishop.

    You also argue that v86 is the best version, but we aren't. You chose a v62 version so I really don't think it makes sense to force your ideals of a v86 maple onto a v62 server.

    Also, if you're getting 1 shot at zakum as a ranged character, you're clearly doing something wrong and walking into the body.
     
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    _ As a GM you should know better, "FREE NX" doesn't mean you can spend as many NX as you want. If you spend all your NX on AP washing then you can't make any meso from Gachapon and Gachapon is critical to earn meso.
    _ "It's not impossible to do it without a bishop" I am very sorry to ask but do you even play the server ? Early game bishop can level up as 2-3 times faster than other classes, late game it's all come down to farming and do I even need to explain how fast bishop can farm ? Considering 1 hit kill from any other class, bishop still beat them when it's come to farming. This is an online game, that's mean it's need a stable economy, just imagine a group of players using bishop to farm compare to a group of other class players farming - "The Economy will be manipulate by the group of bishop player" because they find more items faster than every one else.
    _ "Theories" aside, I will challenge any class that can farm faster than bishop to prove what you might ask ? To prove that this is not Maplestory its BishopStory.
    _ I don't mean to be rude but you need to read what I was saying "In my opinion I think v83 and 86 is the best version" doesn't meant I force everyone to listen to my reason or argueing, the sentence "In my opinion" made it very clear.
     
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    I do play the server. I play it a lot. I could bet you anything that I play it more than you. So I'm pretty sure my experiences give me the right to say the following:

    You can do it without making a bishop.

    Many of my friends have and so have many people who posted on this thread, I don't understand why you're just casually choosing to ignore people who have testified that they haven't made a bishop and are playing just fine.

    I think you don't understand the concept of free NX in the terms I'm stating it. And you're right, I am a GM so I understand that our nx, regardless of what you think, is free. You do not pay in real life mesos for nx here. Hence, it is free. By voting enough, you can save enough nx without paying a single penny to gach, sell tp rocks, whatever you want.

    And I don't know what makes you think late game is all about farming, but it's not. This thread itself is about horntail which is definitely NOT about farming.

    And I don't know why you're challenging other classes to farm when they weren't meant to...?

    Mages were meant to grind and farm. Other classes were meant to boss and dps. I don't know why it's so hard to accept that they were fundamentally meant to do different things. It would be the same thing if I complained why a mage can't do good damage at a boss. A mage isn't supposed to. The way they can get exp is by grinding and farming. You do realize that bishops rarely get exp, right? They sit there, provide buffs, and get splits. If you have bad books, then you just sat there for two hours spamming mg for basically nothing. Actually, now you're in deficit because you spent a bunch of money on pots and 2 hours that could have been spent grinding on a map.

    But I think it's fair that bishops don't get experience because attackers have to use more expensive pots to actually kill the monster, hence doing more work.

    Anyways, this thread wasn't created to complain about leeching and bishops, but rather that the op thought it was necessary to wash/make a bishop when it is not.

    If you want to stay on topic feel free to keep posting, but I'm locking this thread if you can't keep it that way.
     
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    _ This Section is called "Feedback" its where player tell the moderators what they think about the game even it's wrong or right. And so far I haven't complain about anything also if you have read my previous post I clearly pointed out: " I don't mean to complain about anything, it's simply a suggestion". But I guess because you're a GM so you have the power to lock anything you don't like.
    _ The amount of EXP bishop getting is the same EXP as everyone else except the attacker. In most of the time, bishop is the one who attack they're the best farming class why would you leeching as bishop ?
    _ Mages / Bishop doesn't meant to be a bossing class but they're essential to Boss Party because they provide utilities. This prove Bishop is overall better at every aspect of the game.
    _ Other class meant to be a bossing class - Correct - But is it balance - No. Some classes like Hero, Night Lord, Dark Knight ... dominance all other class because they're simply "better".

    _ This thread is created by the author to express his though as a "new players" it's not either late game or HT. Please read before you reply.
     
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    The thread has covered whatever that was in this discussion.
    But see-ing as it got out of hands, I will be locking thread.
    If you have any other unanswered questions, feel free to make a new thread.
     
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