I don't think the bishop is OP. with "the balance" the price of the pots hp / mp was increasing. with which they harm the magicians. They sell leech. To that consider reducing the drop in the game and spawn Ginger Ale: Buying price increased from 3,800 mesos to 16,500 mesos, and selling price increased from 1,100 mesos to 3,500 mesos. Sorry i not speak english :v
No worries bro, I can understand your english. Me saying Bishop was OP was probably not the right wording. Since magicians got hurt, it just tipped the scales in favor of Bishop who were already very popular and had the edge on magicians since they are invited to most every boss. Magicians also already had a natural balance when it came to leech - they didn't have HS so they either had to sell leech as is at a lower price without HS, or spend the time and money leveling an HS mule.
If you have ideas for how the Staff can improve, I welcome you to leave your feedback in a constructive manner here!
If it's posted in the correct section of the forum and abides by the forum's rules, I don't see why that could not work!
I have returned from a 10months break and I noticed how a lot of items dropped in price, not until I was farming with my Archer and Islander I noticed equipment dropping are much lower. And the price of exilir went from original 3k to 9k, now I understand why. I am not sure if this healthy though, pot is more expensive why drops are lower? Can I even sustain myself?
yes, ppl are exaterating, didnt do the math, or straight up want an excuse to quit or trow shit to the game. with or withouth a mage, u still get items quite often, and it absolutely covers the pot usage, and give profits, we could argue about why did they do that,bcs this cutted the profit margin to legit players, meanwhile the hackers(wich seems to be the main reason for this changes) are still fooling around, but the fact that there was a way to compete with hackers is just too broken if u ask me, ofc hackers/rwters should be the next change. despite the server says x4 drops, it was actually x15(confirmed by matt) and with 20% less is now x12..wich..i mean..is still high.Just rmeber 2 things: 1.we lived for years in a server wich haved 1x 1x 1x(gms, kms,etc,etc) and still made it , so, even if the pots pc is 4 times higher, we can do it no probs in a x12 drop server. 2.- We have godly system wich makes some of the items we get, not only npc worthy, also sellable for a bigger margin. Pot consume, even power elixir(the most expensive now) are around 2m stack, u will use around 400-600 in a HT run....thats 8-12m cost...if u bring a mule, u will getm a 5k nx card(around 20m) , for normal use, still, personally i dont pass money from my main money maker(my drk) to my 2ndary one( my bishop) this means my bishh is absolutely self funded..and it just not cover itself, it also gives decent profits.
Well, I personally have nothing to add about the game in general, although the way the staff team deals with compensation to players for mistakes and unintentions is something that concerns me, I once "NPC'd" a +35 INT Doros by accident and I thought I had the robe on me and I didn't know I NPC'd it and without my knowledge of even doing it, I would obviously not in a million years do so such a thing, nor do I think anyone else would. However the next day I noticed my magic attack was way lower and I couldn't find my doros robe anywhere. However their view on this was it was my fault and if we'er going out of reality it was my fault, but at the same time I did it without knowing I even did it, and behaving very "robotic" as usual and staying very neutral as usual they couldn't do anything about it. Their sympathy for other people do not exist and what makes this server stand out from any other is that the staff team is so strict to the rules and very much an observer in general.
Cause if the Staff decided to go with the policy to refund items lost due to accidents, they have to do it for all of the cases to be fair to the players Personally I do not think such a movement is healthy as it will encourages carelessness with the mindset of "Staff can just recover my item", to resolve such issue, I rather extend the duration of ~buyback, or addition of the item lock NX to reduce chances of losing items
Yeah because of as you said "to be fair to every player" no matter the context/story to it. Everyone gets to be treated equal and the impact they give to the player is beyond their imagination. They don't seem to understand or know how the other person behind the monitor is feeling about it. The emotions can't be shown what is going behind the other side. The depression, lack of motivation etc starts to kick in and for them it's just an item. Also they their in a position where it's no big deal to them either because of power. But we are all different, I'm just saying my experience with how it went and how I felt about it. There are probably people who lost items that are worth 30-40b and not gotten it back. To solve this issue I would agree with you on an extended duration of ~buyback or even (Permanent ~buyback). In that case it would solve any future cases of lost items. I would suggest making untradeable chairs tradeable through characters within the same account as well. Such small things can make a huge impact.
I hate the people who think night lords is the only class in the game in a point the disrespect anything but NLS
Bans & RWT, I just don't like that ban appeals are public, I also do not like the way people are banned and then asked to provide evidence to the contrary. As if to say that the admins aren't even sure themselves of the reason you were banned. And if they are sure, then why allow people to create threads in the first place? Just to laugh about them in secrecy or something? It actually doesn't make any sense at all when you think about it. Also another extremely suspicious thing I've noticed is players of high wealth being banned. I'm not going to argue one way or the other about how they obtained the wealth, but it does seem that even if you earn your meso legitimately you will be trialed by fire just because someone was jealous of your hard work. I also want to shed light on the amount of RWT websites that appear from a simple google search, and furthermore to put forward the evidence that all those gold sellers have had posts listed for 3-6 years. If the admins really cared they would stop all of those people by baiting them into transactions and then banning them, don't you think? Washing & New Players Another point of interest is the "Optional HP Washing" listed on the Gtop100. HP Washing isn't optional unless you think the "end-game" is killing mobs in Temple of Time. (you'll get bored of that in about 5 minutes and quit the game forever because you can't do bosses without a Dark Knight friend) So from the perspective of a new player, they will almost always fail to understand HP Washing on their first play through and therefore have to create a new character. And I do honestly think, that was the intention. You've already spent a few months playing, voting everyday. Now you have to re-start, and keep voting. Just some quick math for you to digest. Average APR's required to wash a nightlord from 1-135? 750. depending on int gear (but you're not going to have very good int equips if this is your first character, will you?) 750 x 3100 = 2.3b NX 8000 / 2.3b = 290 days of voting Just to wash a Night Lord from 1-135 and you haven't even stepped foot into a boss room yet. (You still haven't bought all the gear you need to actually do damage, but you can get some exp I guess) It just seems like the system was cherry picked to be as long and tedious as possible. In order to maximize votes from the playerbase. (And not actually be a good game) And there isn't a soul on this planet who doesn't understand that overnight, the admins could completely remove HP Washing by lowering the damage of every single boss. So why don't they? For the purpose of Nostalgia? Well let me be the first to tell you that muling a Bowmaster and Bishop just so I can go solo Krex with my Nightlord brings me very little nostalgia indeed. Donations, I myself have donated many times throughout my 5 years playing this server. I can only imagine what other players have given from their own pockets. And I have paid to host private servers myself, I know that a server like this doesn't cost more than $700-$900 a year to run and that's facts. So after the servers are paid for, what happens with the rest of the donation money? Boss Loot & End-Game; Honestly where do you start. It's a mess. Not enough loot to share with everybody, encourages solo'ing content with mules instead. Eh, the whole thing I'm try to get at is that the low amount of drops creates a very selfish playerbase and honestly I do somewhat think It's a direct cause of the servers toxicity. "Well I made two mules, did all the quest and brought them in here to carry you noobs so I get all the loot, got it scrub!?" Honestly this just pushes players further away from eachother rather than bringing them together in this social mmorpg setting. Closing thoughts, Up until all the above information became clear to me, this server was pretty blissful. But now I am unsure of the purity.
-Ban appeals are public to show transparency and show that we don't ban people just because we don't like them or just because we feel like it. -I can't think of any other game that bans a player and tells them why they were banned like the judicial system in real life that you're hinting towards. A lot of people also misuse ban appeals because they are only meant for players that were incorrectly banned. If it's possible, could you please either respond here or privately reach out to me in DMs of another gaming community that treats bans in a way similar to the judicial system? I'm genuinely curious although I'm sure there's a few out there. -A lot of the people you read ban appeals of are lying. It can look like we're bullying a random person for seemingly no reason but that is never the case. I'd like to note that we do not ban without conducting extensive research first. Sometimes we will make a mistake but we will always unban if that happens. Although people can be dicks, it's our job to not let personal grudges against players be the reason they are unfairly banned. Not to mention the fact that all of Staff is composed of volunteers. We don't get paid. We all do this out of the desire we have to aid the server for the communities sake. I think it's pretty illogical of you to assume that we want anything but the absolute best experience for players in our game unless you didn't know that none of us get paid and are compensated in any way for our time. Not even in game benefits like RP or Meso. -Most end-game players that spend thousands of hours perfecting weapons/armor and scrapping together their attack gear don't get banned. They have the server logs to back them up with hours of play time, chat logs showing they sell leech and play time to prove it. What you see are the new players that get perfect red cravens or stonetooths within two months of playing without a mage character and no merching history aside from selling APR once a week. -People are allowed to be jealous of someone that gets lucky on self-scrolling a 20att cape within their first month, to me that's human nature. But, to be jealous of someone's hard work, someone who actually spent 2 years slowly building their character from nothing; that way of thinking is immature and gross. No one on staff thinks that way that I know of, you have my word. -Lots of RWT Sites? That's to be expected because we are the most popular and most populated Maplestory private server, it's not surprising to me that these websites exist. Most of these sellers are hackers anyway, we ban their accounts and characters, they just make more. To add to that, it's naïve of you to think that staff does nothing with these RWTers and these websites but I won't reveal anymore to keep our methods effective. It offends me personally that you say we don't care because we don't bait every single RWT post made. Washing & New Players -You're treading dangerously close to conspiracy theory territory here which is a sign that an argument has been reconstructed to fit a negative view without much evidence to back it aside from general connections. I also hate HP washing, I've always hated it and my first ever character (my marksman) is unwashed. I still play him, I still spend meso on him, I still have fun and I still boss (HT included). You mentioned that you need a DK friend to boss certain bosses, well, what's wrong with that? People that haven't washed just want the easy way out so they don't have to put in as much work as the people that did wash which in my eyes is more unfair than not being able to HT without HB because you didn't want to wash. We even implemented ways to gain HP for people in a position similar to what I was in back in 2017, you made your first character and didn't know about HP washing?: we have end game gear that gives hundreds of HP and really good HP quests that you can do to catch up with your friends that may have HP washed. -Some bosses are only meant for tanky classes like warriors. They are not meant for NLs, Archers or Sairs but people want to play the way they want to (which is great!) and decide they need to experience these bosses on that class even though that isn't the way it was in GMS back in the day. We give everyone the ability to do that if they're willing to put in the work. -I don't know if your server has come anywhere close to the numbers of players that Royals gets daily but feel free to provide evidence to back up your statement. I will gladly admit I'm wrong (and will ask for the host provider you used haha). The costs for running a server with a low number of players and the cost of running a server with thousands of players don't compare so it might be 'facts' to an extent but it's not the case here. Not even including the varying costs depending on the physical location of the server. -We don't get paid, nobody gets paid, the money goes straight back into the server. In fact, some of the extra money goes into improvements for the server but I can't elaborate more on that. -I don't want to get into Matt's personal life because it's no one's business but his own; I'll say this, he's not some bum that sits around and buys thousand dollar champagnes because this server made him the wealthiest man alive. He has a real job and he works harder than I could elaborate into words on maintaining this server. We all do but I singled him out since the server is under his name. -If you don't want to donate, you don't have to and you are never pressured to donate to the server. I wouldn't call browsing the donor hairs/eyes and seeing one you really like pressure if you were to make that argument. Just to draw a conclusion from my experience, I've likely donated less than $100USD to the server in my 5/6 years here. You don't need to donate to have fun! -Changing the drops without spending hours of time researching the effects would just trash the economy. I, personally as a player, don't like the position the economy is in right now but it can be much much worse. We are doing our best as staff to make it better for everyone, I promise you. -Some people like to solo HT with mules but most don't. This is a minor group in a large bossing community. -Everyone in any bossing party I participate in gets their fair split. Doesn't matter how many mules you bring or who has higher attack range, if you played a role, you get your share. Gatekeeping boss drops is gross behavior and I wouldn't want to play with people like that. It's obvious that I love Royals and the community. The amount of insults I've received and even threats I've received are manageable because I know that my volunteered time is making a positive impact on the community I adore. I'm not doing this for the toxic players, I'm doing it for everyone else. I've been a casual player my entire time here since 2015, I have not washed many characters and I don't own a single piece of equipment worth over 10b on its own. That being said, I never felt that I couldn't play the game how I wanted to play it and I've had countless positive experiences with the people I've met on here and the memories we've shared. Most of these friends I still talk to outside of Royals even though some of them have quit. The game isn't perfect, it never will be perfect but I think it's the closest to reliving that 2007 nostalgia that we have. To me it seems like you've been unhappy with the server for quite some time and it's painful for me to come to that conclusion when I know that most of your points come from a lack of transparency within staff. We are still trying to better ourselves and put more players at ease with the people that manage the game from behind the scenes. I'm sorry we failed to prove our honesty to you, we can only improve.
But you don't allow the community to have any input either way? So why bother! Redundant! World of Warcraft, Runescape, Counter-Strike, League of Legends, Fortnite All of these games, have rules and each rule has a corresponding punishment if broken. It's a very simple and effective system. In some of those games you can privately apply for a ban appeal if your crime was under a certain threshold of severity. If someone was found hacking, then why give them the option to make a ban appeal at all? Why Royals doesn't adopt a system like the above is actually beyond me and It feels like this current system is creating a lot more work than necessary. I know the admins are not paid. Why would you assume I think that? Even if no conflicts of interest have been found, that really doesn't matter. It's about the fact that It could happen and nobody would be the wiser. I have some damning evidence that says otherwise. Sure, tell me what type of server you need and I'll get you a price. Yeah, in the servers that I was running from 2009-2016 we we're fully funded by the community donating on the forums. Because of that we added a monthly donation tracker, showing the total donations for each month to-date. I'm not saying completely reshape the market. I'm saying make bosses actually worth doing. Toad is a really bad offender right. You need a minimum of 3 attackers for a <30 minute run, then you'll probably want a HS mule too. If you don't have a dark knight, then we'll need another mule. so far 5 people in total or 3 players and 2 mules. But toad only drops one headband, if you really lucky. So who gets it, Gert?
Not sure what point you are trying to make here...? What kind of ad hominem argument is this? Going off your logic I think the fact that he just joined three months ago and says this is alarming. If he was here for 5-6 years and saw some shit over the years, then it's somewhat expected after being a part of something for years. But 3 months in and he has this opinion means something is very wrong with how the staff treats it's players.
A lot of people would disagree with you about it being redundant. People want the ban appeals to be public. Why would we have players give input into matters that are solely handled by staff? I genuinely don't even know what you're arguing about anymore. They handle bans the same way we do? Because you said that you don't know where the rest of the donated money goes. You shouldn't play on servers where you don't even trust the people that run the game. It's as simple as that and I can't see what you're trying to argue if not that. This seems like you're just grasping at straws and trying to find fault in everything we do. You don't. If you have proof of that, I'd love to see it. As it stands it's your word against mine and I believe that based on a third parties point of view my word is stronger since the server I'm referencing is still up. You decide who gets it before the run? lol, it's not that serious. Also, loot is split by people, a person can bring three mules but they won't get the split of three people. It's common knowledge, what they may get is extra 5k NX. I don't believe you are open to statements that disprove your accusations so I won't be responding anymore. Everything I said stands and if you'd like to convince me otherwise, please do so in a coherent and informative way.
