Move cs drop from Lyka to targa and the boss

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    Lyka is really easy to kill and having cs causes a lot of drama. Targa and the boss are currently very rarely done since they're way too annoying to kill due to stun locks and iframes.

    Moderator edit: Feedback accepted but in different form. CS moved to Auf Haven and Zakum.
     
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    I hope the "dramatically increased cs drop rate" can get reverted so it's not camped 24/7 by only a few individuals.

    Moving the drop to a different, annoying end game boss sounds good too but with a low drop rate so hackers can't abuse it.
     
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    If it's possible, I'm also down to change Lyka's spawn timer to anything higher (24-48+ hr) and then give it a rng spawn within that time frame to stop people from camping.
    ~f8
    #StopLykaAbuse
     
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    on a somewhat related note, can there also be consideration to change the scarga timer back to 1 hour (like it was in the official servers)? thank you
     
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    yea maybe even some of the PQ's like cwkpq bonus (it's often dry/bad rates)
    i think the timer it's as it is to secure team play or fund to be able to do with less people
    if they make 1h it will be multiclient/mules abuse "solos"
    (sadly it's allready kinda done, but not by many i guess lol ? or not in same time scar/targa "solo"
     
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    Ermmm.... have u ever camped at lyka map? Im sorry, but i cant disagree more with all of u. I was a lyka camper for a few months(i quited because i lack of the time atm and im focusing a little bit on bossing and my book medal). Maybe i have the worst luck in the world but on Avg took me between 130-170 lykas to get 1 cs(so with "dramatically increase of cs drop rate, u mean it was even worse?) , and the other campers(who started as rivals, but then kinda became my friends,, actually i met my best friend of the game there) told me that the drop rate avg is 1 cs every 90-100 lykas, so even if u camp there 16 hours a day and have no competiton, wich is imposible , u get 1 cs a day on avg, maybe more on a lucky day or none in a relmy day, 16 hours for 1 cs, thats a drastic increase?. Let me state some things..
    1.""""""Drama"""""""(i put so many "" bcs theres no such thing, maybe u was a little sensitive and haved an argue there, but cmon ive seen fights at bunny moon pq back in gms) is caused by 3 things in lyka map.
    A. - ure new there. - as i said the drop rate is little asf, and we are all neurotic woth our timers and mules saving maps and compiting each other and suddenly someone new comes and its like "ohhh nooo, i hope hes smart and dont tell his whole alliance what u can get here(happened a few times and its anoyying asf) and for the record no everyone knows what lyka drops.

    B. If the new one acts like an asshole. - ive seen many ppl getting there ksing and then telling the campers "man, its not a big deal, its just game"(u cant say that to someone whos there over 6 or 8 hours and multiclienting, tense, and witha. Timer and a tiny notebook) or even acting rude, not responding, or insulting them. When i get there and find out what i can get, i started to camp, and at the start the other campers where rlly cold to me, but despite that, and they were my rivals i always tried to be nice to them, and like i said, i made my best friend there, and the others started to act nice to me too, even after we know each others, we pm each other when were leaving to tell us when and where lykas would spawn. So, just be nice

    C. - theres a few ppl there from a certain latin guild with i was in alliance a few months ago, who deep inside are good an nice ppl, but sadly they act like completely assholes and despite everything, they are always being rude to everyone.
    That creates all the drama.
    And whoever who thinks its a good idea decrease or delete the chance of cs being droped, have u thought what it takes to get there? Why is not everyone camping there wich such a juicy price? And theres ppl camping on voodos and such? Oh right! Its bcs the re is a prtty long quest line to even get there..... Oh right bcs if ure not washed or high lvl lyka isnt taht easy and u gonna keep dying bcs of the suddenly seduce.... (i know lyka isnt a big challenge if u have the right conditions, but believe me, if u get there witha. Low lvl, it is a nice challenge, i also know tot questline isnt the hardest thing on the earth, i even love it, but most ppl i know dont even do it, bcs they found it anoying and long.
    To summerize i really think scar targa need to be buffed, i told this b4, theres no way that scarga replace zak(thats waht developers are afraid of) i promised a thread about it but i didnt haved the time and motivation to do it, but taht shouldnt involve the nerf of lyka.. Despite all i said, theres not such abuse, i go there ramdomly these days, and no one is there, hunt a few lykas and leave, theres lykas for everyone my friends #lykaabuseisamyth


    Lyka IS FINE AT IT IS NOW.
     
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    You should check out this thread - https://royals.ms/forum/threads/fix-mapowner.145177/
     
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    oh, my position there is on favor, doesnt make much sense owning a map if ure not there, but just for the record, when i said ksing, i mean actual ksing, when ure there,and 2nd and its current state of the game, killing in a map owned by anyone its ksing now, even if hes not there, fair or not it is like it is now, 3rd i heard of ppl saying that they started killing and an empty map the wner comes and imediatly report them, aaaaaaaaand, i never actual saw this, as far as i know mapowner cant report withouth ask the person to cc 1st (at least it shouldnt), and if he/she asked to cc shows u the mapowner, u know the current rules(make sense or not) and u still dont cc, u deserve a report. as a last point, idk why is there so much things against lyka campers, despite a few(3 in particular wich i dont gonna say their names now) i been in that situation lot of times of get into empty map- started to kill wild lyka apears, throwing a pokeball, i mean, my skill- owner appears- show me thta he /she owns it, asked me to cc-i just tend to say "oh sorry, didnt knew, gl here" and cc, u know what happened in response to that? that (despite those 3 i just mentioned)most campers at some point told me, "its ok u can have it" and they cc, even being the owners, i just say, if ure nice to ppl, ppl are going to be nice to u, thats all
     
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    want to ask something to ppl against lyka campers,why do u want to get rid of them? cant be bcs u want to be one of them, doesnt make sense.its bcs u want to randomly kill it whwner u want? ill tell u if u try enough u gonna find out thta lyka is as hard to get as hh, never saw anyone complaining about hh hunters, if u try, u can get lykas every day...its bcs u want to complete ur quest? or get the full card set?. ok, have u tryed to ask the camper nicely for the card?or to pt for get the kill for the quest?
     
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    Being "smart" and "wanting to play royals with friends" are unrelated.

    Because of the drama...? Duh...?

    Many people I know do the quest line with a group of friends cause it's fun that way.

    I don't think most of the community agree with you though.

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    Who would be up for starting a massive invasion of Lyka where we all just wait on maps, waiting for opportunities to steal mapowner when they are briefly afk? :D Seems like they are quite annoyable, given the comment I quoted above about people telling their alliance. With enough of us, we might not need notebooks and to camp for so many hours :o

    Above all though, I just wanna see the Lyka campers all cry if the drop were to be removed.
     
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    Makes more sense to me to just remove Chaos Scroll from Lyka than adjusting mapowner just to reduce the drama

    Pretty sure there will still be some ks or drama at Lyka even if mapowner is changed
     
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    this pretty much summerizes all, my way of thinking: i dont have to respect or accept ur opinion, but i have to respect ur right to express it, what ure saying is, i dont carr this topic at all, just want to see ppl whos doing nothig to me suffer hahahahah, ok pal, come get a Hug...
     
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    They can fo that, but i dont see a real reason, all the "" "" "drama"""" there is selfcaused, and it just going to move somewhere else.
     
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    While im all for giving the boss a rare chance at a CS, i don't think targa/scar should have such a strong drop in their pool. Targa&Scar have their purpose already, they give a helm better than zak, while also being compatible with the zhelm. Which is a big advantage for anyone that have a good scrolled zhelm, but want an even better one, while still not drop the zhelm. (and ideally, have this scenerio the other way around so you'll be able to keep relooting zhelms instead).
    On the other hand, The boss has nothing that justify a run, they buffed the exp so at least its not a pointless endeavor, but dropwise, its still pretty sad.
     
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    If you feel there's no drama in Lyka, why would you support map ownership being removed upon exiting the map, the other thread proposed loss of ownership immediately precisely because of Lyka map hoarding, not for ksing
     
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    I like how you completely ignore the overall situation and rather not solve the problem at all, cause in your own words - there are no drama in Lyka
     
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    A plus to the Boss too, adding to the above suggestions.

    Simply the Boss itself is unpopular content unlike toad which gives an exciting reward such as an toad mask which is highly sought for, adding up with an challenging Body 1. Adjusting lykas and Adding an reward as such might be a good move to boost participation.
    imo its pretty fun and worthwhile to farm, adding up for royallers to enjoy it on an active basis.
     
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    Nah games too easy, get good or go home.
     
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    Chaos scroll is an end game material of great value which supply should stay relatively low with challenging acquisition methods.

    Adding it as a drop (or increasing the drop rate) from lyka didn't seem like a bad idea at first because one needs to complete a series of long chain quests to even reach its map. Lyka would stand out as a "Rewarding area boss for the patient individuals" but the value of cs and the high chance of acquisition, relative to the short 3 hour respawn timer of lyka, invoked greedy individuals to take an unfair advantage using the current mapowner system.

    A substantial number of people have completed the quests to access ob5 map and sought for Lyka but only a few ever managed to lay their fingers on its back.

    I think this maneuver is unhealthy for the server because unlike many other bosses that allow fair and equal chance of access from anyone, limiting the 2nd only source of cs to an area boss, that can be camped and monopolized by single or only a few individuals, leads to skewed flow of cs supply. I respect all the effort the 24/7 campers spend for the exclusive possession of lykas but I cannot, even for a second, believe the intention behind adding cs drop to lyka was for a few campers to monopolize its supply. CS supply should stay more or less the same but it should be distributed more evenly among the server's population.
     
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    Something i dont know, is, how important i scarga suposed to be? Bcs if it was suposed to be not taht important is fine at it is, a 2nd table boss with just one purpose, but if it wss suposed to be a main boss, then.... Nowdays the only wsy u can run it is to be strong enough to duo it, or(kinda the same) quad scar/targa
     

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