Trying to make new character : Please advise

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    I'm a user who's playing cleric classes at Royal. Since I became a bishop, I've been traveling from place to place, and I've seen more diverse sights than I've seen in the past year. And one day I would like to try a different class.

    I tried to find a way by reading many articles, but I've been a mage class for more than 90 percent of the time before and after the Big Bang, so i'm not sure what to prepare, and i'm writing like this. I've heard that most of the class need some hp wash to survive the boss war. First i estimated the 200 levels of hp and mp of each class by looking at the youtube video and searching internet.


    Warrior 28k/2k
    Dark Knight 23k/2k
    Archer 12k/3.5k
    Night Lord 15k/4k
    Shadower 11k/3.5k
    Corsair 12k/4.3k
    Buccaneer 19k/5k


    1. I've seen a review of strafe and hurricane's damage loss. If there's an ideal thing about not wasting grocery, please let me know.
    (e.a. mage hp 10k, mp 30k)

    2. I prefer ginger ale because I think it is a best for mage. Are there any preferred poses for each class?

    3. I see high att shoes, cape, and gloves are sold at a pretty high price. Without this equip, it's hard to join the party like zakum or horntail?

    4. Do you usually use apple or stopper for your personal training? The reason why I ask is that these items are quite expensive.

    5. Sometime I can see message that says, "recruit attacker." Does every class except mage belong here? Or is there a standard?

    6. Hurricane and rapid fire are known to consume a lot of mp. If you have a 6k mp, wouldn't there be any other burden?

    7. I heard that marksman's snife has a delay of about five seconds, is that why the number of bowmaster is relatively higher than marksman? Or is there another reason?

    8. If dark knight doesn't keep berserk, does paladin and hero show better damage?

    9. I've heard that shadower involves a deficit in what part, but is this a matter of control?



    It's a lot longer than I thought. Thank you for reading. I can't make all the characters right now, but I'd like to get to know a little bit.
    I'd appreciate it if you could share your experiences.

     
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    I'll number my answers in correlation to your questions. (These may be out of order compared to the actual questions) I can't answer all of these, but hopefully I can give some insight into some of them.

    Question 2: Like how you use Ginger Ales, the percentage potions from NLC are great for any class, especially Honsters. However, in the case of Dark Knight, you will be using something along the lines of Melting Cheeses or Reindeer Milks so you can keep yourself in Berserk range.

    Question 8: And relating to the potions for Dark Knight, if you don't keep in Berserk, your damage will suffer a lot compared to Heroes and Paladins.

    Question 5: "Recruiting Attacker" generally refers to most offensive classes, but more commonly Night Lord, Heroes, Buccs, and Shadowers. However, all non-mage classes can be viable as attackers, it's just that some classes are better overall than others in the right conditions.

    Question 6: The MP cost of Hurricane and Rapid Fire only really affects your MP if you have low MP. Bowmasters have Concentrate to halve their mana costs for a duration, but other than that they can just stop, use a pot, and start up again if they want. Not sure if Auto-MP works while it's channeling though. Corsairs on the other hand tend to rely on their Battleships over Rapid Fire so it's only used if their ship breaks and they need to wait for the cooldown.

    Question 3: High ATT gear is very nice, so it's preferred, but you can definitely join boss runs without having super high attack gears or super funded gears. Honestly, experience with boss runs and how HP washed your character is, is probably more valuable than your gear, but gear needs to be at least decent so the run doesn't take too long. Since you've got experience with mages, if you dont already sell leech, it helps a lot to fund your new characters.


    That's all I can answer for you since I don't have that much experience regarding your other questions, but maybe others will be able to help answer those.
     
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    regarding this, auto mp works once per channel, so you have to refresh it every now and then. but usually your channel gets interrupted by the boss unless its krex left eye or bf

    3. it depends what class you're playing. if you're a bowman generally people don't care so much since you provide sharp eyes. also for zakum public runs people are usually less fussy about range than ht

    4. if you mean while grinding, i don't think people really use either. maybe energizers or warrior potions. if you mean while bossing, generally either is fine, but usually its best to check with your party members if you're unsure
     
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    I tried to find a way by reading many articles, but I've been a mage class for more than 90 percent of the time before and after the Big Bang, so i'm not sure what to prepare, and i'm writing like this. I've heard that most of the class need some hp wash to survive the boss war. First i estimated the 200 levels of hp and mp of each class by looking at the youtube video and searching internet.

    I won't recommend using Youtube to check a classes natural HP and MP, you can self calculate or use this gauge.

    Min HP Formula for Beginner = 12 x level + 50
    Min HP Formula for Spearman class = 24 x level + 172
    Min HP Formula for Fighter class = 24 x level + 472
    Min HP Formula for Bowman = 20 x level + 378
    Min HP Formula for Thief = 20 x level + 378
    Min HP Formula for Pirate = 22 x level + 380

    Minimum MaxMP Formula for Thief = (14 x level) + 148
    Minimum MaxMP Formula for Archer = (14 x level) + 148
    Minimum MaxMP Formula for Pirate = (18 x level) + 111
    Minimum MaxMP Formula for Spearman = (4 x level) + 156
    Minimum MaxMP Formula for Fighter/Page = (4 x level) + 56
    Minimum MaxMP Formula for Beginner = (10 x level) + 2

    Job advancements have received increased HP gain. Players have also been retroactively refunded the difference as follows:
    • Warrior:
      • 3rd job advancement now gives 1000-1050 HP instead of 300 - 350 HP
      • 4th job advancement now gives 1800-1850 HP instead of 300-350 HP
    • Bowman:
      • 3rd job advancement now gives 600-650 HP instead of 300-350 HP
      • 4th job advancement now gives 900-950 HP instead of 300-350 HP
    • Thief:
      • 3rd job advancement now gives 600-650 HP instead of 300-350 HP
      • 4th job advancement now gives 900-950 HP instead of 300-350 HP
    • Pirate:
      • 3rd job advancement now gives 600-650 HP instead of 300-350 HP
      • 4th job advancement now gives 900-950 HP instead of 300-350 HP

    1. I've seen a review of strafe and hurricane's damage loss. If there's an ideal thing about not wasting grocery, please let me know.
    (e.a. mage hp 10k, mp 30k)
    You are right, is a good not to waste groceries at all. You can donate any unused produce to your local food bank to reduce waste.

    2. I prefer ginger ale because I think it is a best for mage. Are there any preferred poses for each class?
    I personally used Ginger Ale and Sunset Dew that I collected from bosses. Dark Knight tend not to use non % potion like Melting Cheese, in order to better manage their HP for Berserk.

    3. I see high att shoes, cape, and gloves are sold at a pretty high price. Without this equip, it's hard to join the party like zakum or horntail?

    No for Zakum and Krexel, usually these runs are public/open to everyone, so organizers aren't very concern about your equipment unless they state otherwise.

    Yes for bosses like Horntail and Shaolin, organizers expect attackers to have a certain amount of HP and range. For example, a recommended attack range for Night Lord is about 5 - 6k for Horntail.


    4. Do you usually use apple or stopper for your personal training? The reason why I ask is that these items are quite expensive.
    I use Warrior Portion or Cider for training which you can get in New Leaf City/ Showa Town. I rarely use Heart stopper for training.

    5. Sometime I can see message that says, "recruit attacker." Does every class except mage belong here? Or is there a standard?

    Generally, mage is not considered an attacker.

    7. I heard that marksman's snife has a delay of about five seconds, is that why the number of bowmaster is relatively higher than marksman? Or is there another reason?
    Bowmaster is easier to play compare to a Marksmen, as you as don't have concentration as much, in order to get the optimal damage, as Bowmaster have one main attacking skill (Hurricane) instead of two.


    Furthermore, Bowmaster's Hurricane can easily pin a boss.


    Useful reference
    Sila's Night Lord Guide
    Plenty's Dark Knight Guide
    Mrkaren's Dark Knight Guide
    Nany's Bowmaster Guide
    Plenty's Hero Guide
     
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    @Glaux

    Thank you for your answer. When seeking advice, I was most interested in dark night. But, now I felt I'll have better reconsider because I don't have good control. And i didn't think about cooldown, but thank you for mentioning it. I'll think about it it a little bit more and decide it's easy for me to play.
    ("I can give some insight into some of them." Literally, it helped me make the decision. Thank you.)


    @weirdomonkey

    I haven't decided what to do first yet because I have not enough meso for hp wash multiple characters. I'm going to decide between archer, warrior, shadowower. And I forgot these postion until you mentioned it. Thanks to you let me remember it. Thank you.


    @ilyssia

    It's a lot different from the mage. I thought it was relatively difficult to get a crossbow than a bow, but from another point of view, the difference between the two class should be considered a little bit more. Thank you for your reply.
     
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