Quest HP Gain Awaiting Developer Input HP Quest for Mages

So I know this is a long shot, but why aren't mages allowed to do the HP quest? Washing a Bishop is a pain in the b00ty and HP quest set could help mages (Bishop mainly) with bossing

EQUALITY FOR MAGES

 

if additional HP on mages is game-breaking why not allow them to gain MP instead

 

5 HP per quest :3

 

i say yes but honestly wash on bishop is quite "easy", INT being main stats saves alot APR's and time especially with APR dropping in price and the "new" SP reset method

plus is very "broken"- unnecessary to have have such high HP (if you main bishop unless mule... ) but who knows what future content bring

 

Whats that sp reset method?

 

https://royals.ms/forum/threads/new-method-to-save-mp-when-hp-washing-a-mage.143186/

 

I think this should be done. If you're making a unkillable bishop with high hp/mp, it's much more cost effective to just wash it normally. But if a person generally likes playing bishop, and doesn't want to waste mesos on washing a bishop. Why not give a bishop/mage main to slowly gain hp over time, as a substitute from selling leech to gain mesos for washing. Which currently, is more effective to do instead of hp quests.

Also, if a possible direction of the server is to divert from the HPwash/leech meta by allowing players to more easily/efficiently gain hp from in game content rather than a nexon design flaw exploit, mages in some way or form would need to get ways of gaining hp as well. If those ways are eventually implemented (hp from PQ tokens) or other ways in the future. It would be fair, and can be balanced to not let them obtain as much hp as other classes.

 

+MP yes

 

I like the ideas of +5 hp per turn in, or having an MP quest for mages. Hp is way more effective on mages because of magic guard, so giving less hp makes sense - as does an MP quest because mp is pretty much hp for mages (see Magic Guard).

 

There needs to be some sort of reward for mages YES, washing is cheaper for mages like @MaiAh said. As @GunzGaming has mentioned, because it mule-less meta now for HT, having Bishop main is highly in demand. +5HP seems a bit low but I'm open to any gains that Bishop can receive

 

The quests have to be altered since farming for mages is quick.

 

As a bishop main I'd like to see mages included in some of the opportunities to gain raw max HP. I get all sad inside when I am a level 161 bishop with 2.6k HP (with some HP equips like fur lump, yellow belt, virtuoso, shiny nose, etc.) and I see other washed bishops with much more HP. I do not want to remake a bishop, pass gen20/30 and mw20 again all for the sake of more HP. It would be nice to have another option.

I see people mentioning nerfing the gain to +5 HP from quest, but instead I would rather see an increase in difficulty, e.g. collect more items, than a nerf in HP gain.

Also, we should not get too carried away. Between invincible (-30% physical damage), elemental resistance (-50% damage from all elemental attacks), and magic guard (80% damage redirect to MP), it is quite hard to justify allowing bishops specifically to gain HP (arch mages also have specific elemental resistances, correct?) However, one could argue washing through APR already exists (and I for one would love to see that meta die.) At the end of the day, excluding mages from something like the HP quest only punishes the particular group that does not bow down to the APR meta.


Anyway these are my unbiased-as-possible thoughts on the matter. Full disclosure, I voted yes.

 

At lvl 161, you can still wash up to probably 10k hp by 200 if you add fresh AP to MP each time you level - up to 30k mp, then reset 1st job Max MP increase, MP + HP wash, readd 1st job Max Mp Increase, rinse and repeat once or twice. It's actually better to wash later with more INT as a mage, since you'll gain more MP per fresh AP than at lower levels. This is still following the APR meta that you dislike, but you wouldn't have to remake your bishop and re-purchase and pass all your skillbooks.

I didn't wash my BS until 165-170ish and got to 6k hp by 200, with fresh AP and mp to spare and wash still.

Edit: BS is actually a more busted class than NL. Change my mind. kek pls don't nerf

 

Indeed, I have already considered this as an option, and it makes me want to puke.

Since you edited your post I guess I'll add this. I was certainly a tad dramatic in saying that I would need to remake my character, and it is most definitely feasible to still wash at my level. However, my disgust for the APR meta remains. I do appreciate your clarity and experience, however.

 

mages would also need to have in their quest a different item id, so they wont be used to farm for other players the quest items. (unless it is already possible in a party and i just wasn't aware kek).
but yea, a nerfed reward (4 hp and 8 when getting the special pot) it very reasonable.
hp for mage is x5 times more effective than other classes, and in certain quests they benefit from the ulti skills, so there needs to be a reward nerf to keep things balanced.

 

As of now, the HP quest is designed in a way that mages can't efficiently help gather the ETC. It wouldn't make sense to buy a "service" to have a mage kill the mobs for you, between the needed travel, drop rates, and both characters needing the same quest (out of 8 possible) for the ETC to drop. Given the low reward of 10-20 HP daily, I do not see an issue with the above even if people managed to buy this service somehow.

It only makes sense that mages don't have the HP quest because they use HP more efficiently than the other classes (as what LichWiz said). Mages should get this quest, maybe with slightly nerfed HP gain. However, the likelihood of this isn't high at all because it seems taking things away from mages is the direction the developers like to take.

 

They could make mage's HPQ every other day? (And maybe +9/14)

 

Creating an mp quest for mages wouldn't work as mg works in %. My friends a bish main that doesn't sell leech but wants to HT and the requirement of like 5.5k-10k hp to main bish in HT when washing nets you like 10hp per 90mp is ridiculous

 

People want to say mages have it easy when it comes to survivability til a boss dispels and flicks a mage zzz mage can survive the same as a level 60 thief without the avoidability once dispelled

 

Not commenting on if mages should get hp quest, but the gui is bugged; you only lose 30 mp (or 20 if you reset improved mp sp). Mages easily gain massive amounts of mp too by putting fresh ap into mp and then resetting mp to int (can gain about 100 mp per ap at higher levels).