Content Add Pieces of Time to ToT mobs + Reverse Weapons Crafting

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  1. Herres
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    This has been brought up many times in the past and the main reason that pieces of times haven't been introduced yet is the fear hackers would farm them.
    So this is my suggestion:
    1. Make ToT mobs drop untradeable pieces of time.
    2. Introduce a new NPC in ToT that allows you to craft untradeable Reverse weapons (Just reverse, no Timeless weapons).

    This way players can only craft these weapons only by themselves and just for themselves (rip hackers).
    Why should this be added?
    - More content for people who like to farm.
    - Alternative new good weapons that players can make themselves.
    - No one knows when Mapleroyals would be completely hacker-proof so this could be a good addition until Pink Bean is fully released.
    - This gives access to Reverse Weapons only, leaving the Timeless weapons to be introduced at the same time of Pink Bean.

    When the anti hacking system would go online Pieces of Times can be re-introduce again as tradeables, meaning that all pieces of times obtained before the re-introduction are untradeable and the ones obtained after are tradeable. That way even if hackers farmed a full inventory of pieces of times, they would still have the untradeable version of them so they cannot be sold.
    The crafted Reverse Weapons would be tradeable only if the all the pieces of times used to craft them were all of the tradeable version.

    I believe that introducing a new set of weapons with decent stats can be really refreshing for the server and helpful for new players who don't have billions of mesos to purchase the current weapons available.
     
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    im voting against only on account of rebranding them as tradeable later.

    ive suggested many times already keeping pieces of time and the weapons untradable. keeping PoT, and the assembled weapons untradable will keep the dragon weapon market stable, but build a large optional meso sink for the ToT weapons, akin to the auf circlet. pb could drop tradeable timeless/reverse scrolls (whichever are implemented. imo id just only add the timeless, skip the reverse sets entirely), instead of normal scrolls.
     
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    So in your opinion should the pieces of time be untradeable even after Pink Bean is out?
     
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    that's how i feel now. i know its not Nostalgic, but i think its healthier, due to hacking, and farmability. id even suggest the pb scrolls also be untradeable, that way folks cant skip to timeless sets. but i also think the required levels for all the timeless sets should be like 180 or higher for the same reason
     
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    If I'm not mistaken once you level up your reverse\timeless weapons they automatically become untradeable so you can basically only sell unleveled ones. I think it would be unlikely that people would try to perfect scroll these weapons prior to leveling them up (could be up to 6 additional attack for reverse weapons) so I think making them tradeable wouldn't have a huge impact on the market.
     
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    The specifics of the implementation could be further discussed, but yes, Reverse weapons would be nice.
    Reverse/Timeless are untradeable upon equip.
     
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    i don't personally think the leveling aspect of them should be carried over. its so much gambling: farming, stimulators, base stats, levels, what level-up stats and SP you possibly gain (a ton of variables hinged on one item, which i understand but also can be simplified), then scrolling. i think if they were to be here, just having higher base/scrolled stats than dragon weapons is enough, so equipping them or not, still keeping them untradable is probably healthier, with pb dropped scrolls to boost them possibly.
    but again, how they're to be rolled out is up in the air, but mine and lots of other feedback is out there
     
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    I wouldn’t even mind tradable pieces of time, but it sucks having something like temple of time and we lack the main content it offers, but we have a ridiculous overpowered helmet that’s okay for the extremely try hard players LOL.
     
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    Exactly. If auf helmet is a thing then there's no reason to why players cannot craft a reverse weapon for themselves if they grind enough.
     
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    Auf helm is the single most busted piece of armor we have. Since it exists unchanged stat wise and we even somehow thought scrolling it would be too hard or expensive so we stupidly buffed the scrolls to 10%, reverse/timeless weapons should have no additional restrictions placed on them outside the normal ones imo
     
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    It’s HEAVY grinding and luck just to craft a decent one (when you lvl them up sometimes you don’t even gain stats xD ), but seriously you can look up my old posts from like 2016 on threads I followed and you’d see people complaining about targa/scar helmets being too OP and unhealthy for the game and yet here we are with not a care in the world. We need some changes, pieces of time (not even needing maker skill, a crafting NPC with stims/godly system) would suffice fine just to add some change into the game because end game has been getting stale for players lately. Give people something to play for
     
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    I agree with all of your statement here. I agree so much, I made a thread 2-3 years ago about how i thought we should added reverse/timeless items because of how stale the end game item market had gotten.
     
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    Facts i don’t know why they keep holding back smh
     
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    made a thread exactly about this in 2019, and its relevant now as much as it was 3 years ago. Almost baffled why nothing like this was done yet to shake up these 8+ years of stable endgame weapon market
     
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    That's because Mapleroyals has, unfortunately, entered the twilight zone. New good content once a year, everything else is more of the same.
     
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    Reverse equips also gives alternatives to gachapon-only endgame weapons.

    1. Dark Knights get Alchupiz(yes, I believe speed 7 Alchupiz does more dps than speed 6 sky skis, can back that up with calcs if needed)
    2. NLs get to work towards a Lampion instead of praying for a DPS.

    I'm also sure that reverse weapons can be balanced in such a way that current end game weapons don't lose their value too much.
     
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    theyre untradable and the lvl up stats aren’t guaranteed, reverse weapons are balanced.
     
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    I'm aware, I brought up the untradeable aspect in this thread already. I'm thinking moreso in terms of weapon attack.
     
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    You should take into consideration that because of the randomness of the extra stats these weapon have and because they become untradeable upon equip there wouldn't be any perfectly scrolled ones for sale on the market so in my opinion the weapon attack should be left untouched.
    Further reasoning for this: On average one needs around ~35b to perfect scroll a weapon (70 white scrolls, 10 for each slot) as oppose to buying an already made one from the market at the price of ~25b, so on average one would have to spend additional 10b for a perfect reverse weapon that they themselves have crafted, so the higher attack of these weapons compensate for that.
     
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    Whoever is against this idea needs to stop being selfish / live in the past and proceed with progression, this will bring more meaning to end game content (grinding for pieces, trying to craft a nice weapon, the gamble of the level up system, give more meaning to TOT in terms of a new market and MORE options) like seriously people, it’s the SAME end game market for weapons, let’s switch things up a bit it’s been almost a decade, let’s bring something refreshing to the table. We aren’t asking for maker skill but an NPC that’s viable yo create these weapons with stims (gives stims added value) and the godly system.
     
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