Can Shadower get some buff?

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    Can shadower get some buff? at this points...its pretty hard to play Pure Luk Shadower due to the need to use Str and Dex for the actual weapon......
     
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    Add some str and dex for weapons then? Do you need to be pure luk?
     
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    Shadower is very strong! They have both strong single target dmg and multi target dmg which is unlike most jobs right now. I think the job that is in most need of a buff now is Marksman in the current meta.
     
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    Shadowers got themselves a very substantial buff a few updates ago that made them very viable, i don't think they need another one.
     
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    *buffs shadower*
    More people plays shadower. Daggers and equiments become more expensive. Decides to play marksman.
    "Can Marksman get some buff?"
     
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    so i shouldnt go for pure luk? then i should just go for normal build i guess.... its kinda hard for newbie to play Shadower
     
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    Pure luk should not be something that’s taken for granted. It should be a moderately difficult goal to work towards.

    And shadowers do not need a buff. Imo shadowers and buccs are the two jobs that got overbuffed in the 4th job skill balance update, with buccs a lil more so probably (off-topic: if the gap between NL and SE is normal, then the gap between SI and Warr is pretty unfair/backwards I think)
     
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    @thread: no

    @bucc nerf: hate to say it but yeah that class is so overpowered 1v1, they can break cap twice w/ one attack, and then some on a good roll
     
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    both no
     
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    Hmm is it though?
    Bucc is pretty close in DPS to Paladin and Shadower, and while it's stronger in 1vs1 than Hero/Drk they are multi target classes and will easily beat buccs in multi target bosses like CWK, Zak arm, HT right side etc. Also even at 1vs1 the gap isn't as big as NL and BM, and I'd say the NL/BM gap is probably more unfair cause BMs dont have anything except SE while warriors still got strong multi target damage
     
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    I find it a little strange that the class with the second most crucial party buff SI (and time leap too!) is rank 3rd in dps rankings, while SE is ranked significantly lower. If you account for the fact that BM’s have to spend maybe 10% of the time repositioning at bosses like HT/CWK, they would realistically be ranked just above MMs. :-/

    Also, in the krex videos, I think Tim’s buccaneer should be using demo only instead of barrage demo given his insane range, so the bucc timing should be even faster.

    This is from the perspective of a shadower main who feels that shadower is very strong atm, so bucc feels even stronger for being crucial party buff class.
     
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    Shadower is strong at the moment.

    If I have to suggest a buff for shadower, I think it would be enabling Auto pet HP to heal while in Dark Sight.

    Many of my shadower comrades died because they were in dark sight, then got stunned and could not go back to heal ~f4
     
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    The counter play is to right click the dark sight icon on the top right. It would be a nice QoL change, but it is still mostly avoidable atm.
     
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    Tbh why i want a shadower buff is because its a Thief class, compare to his counter-part NL. he is nowhere as close or as strong as NL. NL has Flash Jump and has triple throw and AoE attack that deal more or faster dmg than Shadower? i mean Shadower are only good for his smokescreen. i dont see alot of shadower compare to NL and people are always saying NL are better? i am sorry if i am being bias. but thats how i see it. when Shadower doing wrong stuff everybody blame the Shadower but When NL do wrong stuff or being selfish they just ignore it.
     
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    Goodness..
     

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